Does it not seem Bush would have had more respect had he not stolen his first election?

Question

After 2000, nothing would have persuaded me to ever support him or his party.

Joseph: It is very likely that Diebold and Republican irregularities handed Bush Ohio in 04.
This forever taints his standing.

J-Rod: If he won fair and square, then why did the conservative justices on the Supreme Court have to stop the recount and appoint him to the presidency? No, this was a stolen election.

Bryan: The USSC 5 conservative justices had no business appointing Bush to the presidency.
This was a right wing coup.

AK23: Bush did not even win the popular vote in 2000. The USSC erred in apppointing him to the presidency.

Ahi: Reagan and Bush 41 won their elections.
Again, Bush lost the popular vote in 2000.
Florida had to be rigged to give Bush the electoral votes and Bush had to be appointed to the presidency by the USSC. It was not a free and fair election.

Doyel: I am mystified why this was allowed to happen. I suspect Gore supporters were not ruthless enough. History will record this as a clouded election at best.

Turbowee: I am highly skeptical that " all " factual accounts support the claim that Bush was elected in 2000. If it takes 5 conservative Supreme Court Justices to vote along party lines to appoint Bush to the presidency...it was a stolen election.

Turbo : The Florida recount should have been carried out to its conclusion. The USSC had no proper role in appointing Bush to the presidency.
We all know Republican thugs and hired hands like James Baker working for Bush 41 created the conditions that stopped the election in Florida.
Between this and the disenfranchisement of Florida voters by Katherine Harris and the Governor...it was a stolen election. Gore won and won the popular vote. It was a stolen election. But Bush has done more to assist the Democratic party than it could have on its own.
I am just sad for all the damage he and his Neocon managers have done. Get over it ?
Not hardly.

Answer 1

I have no idea why someone didn't see right away that Jeb Bush pulled something crooked for the State of Florida in 2000 to get Dubya in office.
I have no use for the whole Bush family. His own mother said that he was her dumbest child.

Answer 2

I disagree. I believe the election controversy was just fodder for the masses. Democrats would have found a reason to not respect Bush even if everyone in the country had voted for him. This is just the nature of partisan politics. A majority of Democrats did not like Reagan, they did not like Bush Sr. and they do not like Bush Jr. The primary reason in every case is simply because they are Republicans. As for the election being stolen this is ridiculous and always has been. If you want to argue that the Supreme Court awarded him a victory, that the Electoral system is flawed, or that a certain percentage of Florida voters could not read a ballot properly and thus aided in his victory by their own ineptitude, I would say these are all proper analytical arguments. However, we don't get these arguments, but rather the irrational hatred and finger pointing. Take from this what you will, but I for one have never seen any evidence in your posts that would suggest you would ever support Mr. Bush under any circumstances. Many people do support and respect the President contrary to what the detractors think.

planksheer: I will admit that 4 of the Justices who voted to end recounts could indeed be considered Conservatives. However, there is no way you can legitimately call Sandra Day O'Connor such. I will accept moderate, but not conservative. Therefore your argument of Right Wing Coup falls flat on it's face on this simple truth. Try again!

Answer 3

Perhaps you have something besides your opinion to prove that the election was "stolen"? According to all factual accounts and a review of the judicial decisions, Bush won that election.

He didn't "steal" it. He wasn't "selected". He was elected, narrowly to be sure, but elected fairly all the same.
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Ah, the usual misunderstood and misconstrued ruling.
You need first understand that the Chief Justice of the SCFLA vehemently disagreed with the actions of his own court. Because they allowed willy-nilly recounts, with willy-nilly methods, contrary to the existing vote recount laws in Florida. It is the legislature, not the court, that wrote the voting laws. This type of judicial usurpation of powers should give everyone concern.

So when the 7-2 decision told the FLASC to try again, they failed miserably, allowing different places to use different methods to discern votes. This is inherently unequal and certainly a violation, by any objective standard, and the USSC, quite rightly, shut it down.

By the legal recounts, Bush won. Get over it.

Answer 4

Whether you like it or not, Bush won twice.

The Supreme Court ruled that under the constitution and the law - Bush had won.

You might not like it - but you need to change the law, not harbor a bitter grudge because it didn't go your way.

Move on. Next please.

In addition:

YES - you are right, he did not win the popular vote, but that is the system you have, and until it is changed you have to live with it. And in 2004 - even if Bush had lost Ohio (which was never proven and no substantiable evidence of vote rigging was ever produced) he would have still won the popular vote by 3 million. You cannot have it both ways.

You claim to USSC was wrong in it's decision. Who are you to challenge legal opinion of a majority of Supreme Court Judges. I suspect they are far better qualified than you to define the legislation and constitution.

You are confusing your opinion with fact. And the fact is Bush won.

Looking down your list of questions it is clear you are an obsessive Bush Basher, and your liberalism is clearly clouding your judgement.

As I said earlier - BUSH WON TWICE. Get over it.

Answer 5

I think that if Al Gore had stolen the election as he had hoped to... we would be fighting a war here at home against terrorists, rather than one in the middle east.

Bush was elected fair and square... if you recount (pun intended) election night... Bush was declared the winner at about One in the morning... that's when I went to sleep... knowing who the next president would be...

then I found out the next morning that Al was trying to take it...

I'm from Tennessee... and if you can't win your "home state", you don't deserve to be President

Answer 6

It does not make a difference..even the educated people in U.S gave him enough respect even when he stole the election.Watch the documentary Outfoxed and Michael Moore's Fahrenheit 9/11..i believe this would help answering your query

Answer 7

The election was a coin-toss, and could have gone either way, but you would not have respected Bush if he had one in a landslide. Bush sucks, Gore would have been no better.

Answer 8

Just to make it official, he won the second election by a wider margin.

You're a sucker if you believe in the old stolen election thing. That's what we expect from third world countries after an election.

In the US, only Democrats play those games. Republicans accept the will of the people and move on.

Answer 9

It is his stubborn insistence to continue to follow bad policy that lost my respect.

Answer 10

No, he'd have still acted the way he has, strings and all.