the most discrimination of gays & lesbians comes from the gay community itself. Do you agree?

Question

Gay men only socialize with, and seduce, a certain 'type'. Top. Bottom. Bears. Twinks. Femmes. Boy next door. Jocks. If you don't fit a certain look, you're invisible.
And don't say the straight community does the same. Not to the extent that we do.

A lot of gay men are staus-obessed - clothes, sex, money, hair house, car....like Paris Hilton.

Most bitchy attitudes levelled against gay men come from other gay men - "Straight-acting" gay guys will call drag queens attention-seeking nancy boys. Drag queens will call other drag queens a whore just for having a better outfit on stage....

Answer 1

No. I don't agree but I see where your idea is founded for sure.

A lot of my lesbian friends have stopped hanging around with us since we started a family. They use words like "breeders". It's horrible.

Just because I have children and I'm legally married, doesn't make me less gay.

So yes, I do see a lot of discrimination within my own community, however I can't agree that most of it comes from within.

Most of the hatred and discrimination definitely comes from people who are not gay who think they are better than the rest of the world.

Answer 2

Angry much? Okay, I read the whole thing. And my answer is idk. With effort, good luck and the passage of time, maybe we will one day reach the point where we members of society stop judging each other and just start letting everyone live their lives in peace and harmony.... a time when labels will no longer have much relevance. But for now, what if you simply choose to identify yourself as a guy. Period. Not "trans", because you've already "tranned" - it's done. Granted, all the judgments and discrimination you face will still exist. idk Also, you make a blanket statement about gay guys not wanting to date you b/c you don't have a penis. I'm a gay guy and I've meet some very attractive FTM guys who I would love to date - not all of us are fixated on penises. Anyway, I'm sorry you're so angry. Just like society's growing acceptance of gays and lesbians, it will take more people knowing a transgendered person. Then I think people will eventually stop giving a crumb about gender and orientation issues altogether.

Answer 3

I am straight.

I dress in pretty off beat clothing, I'm poor, my place sucks, my car sucks.

My hair is admitedly great, though. <3

Anyhow, dispite all this, I get hit on a lot. And I've never, I mean never, had anyone from the GLBT community treat me differently because of this or leveled any serious cracks at me about it.

I have known a lot of gay people and never experinced anything like this, but I have seen it portrayed on TV pretty often.

If you have experinced this, I can only suggest that all the hostility towards them in society has got to build up and have it's effects. Maybe some just don't deal with this well.

I think it's an invalid steriotype.

Answer 4

Hardly. I learned a long time ago that were I to only socialize with like minded people I'd be spending a great deal of time alone. Perhaps it stems from growing up in a very rural area where choices for entertainment were few and instead people had to rely upon themselves for stimulation. Regardless, I do not now nor have I ever limited my chances for communication by denying anyone from any social standing or otherwise preconceived peer group the opportunity for pleasant company.

Answer 5

Where's the question? Of course we discriminate! And so do str8 people. Example: remember in high school, the jocks all hung out with each other, the nerds with each other, etc. And if you were a nerd, you often got called names from the jocks. You get the point. discrimination takes on various faces. Not all of it is obvious. Some of it internalized. Look, forget labels. We are all people. Some are just more fashion savvy than others. Oh yeah, and we happen to be more attracted to people of our own sex.

Answer 6

While I don't (or don't want to) agree with most of what you are saying, I do feel that the gay community seems to tear itself down from within. Alienation and categorization do nothing but show the straight world that we're no better or more accepting than they are.

Answer 7

There are many hierachies in the gay community. There are also much steriotyping and grouping of people and if people do not fit into this grouping then they are discriminated against. For example, it is true that there are certain set agreed apon rules of behavour and appearence that the mainstream gay community uses to discriminate against people who do not fall into these narrow steriotypes. For instance, people with disabilities, people from low socio-economic groups, in some places people who identify as bisexual, and people whose body shapes and sizes do not "fit" into the mythical steriotypes of the mainstream gay community.
A hierarchy (in Greek: often used in Geographic studies Ἱεραρχία, it is derived from ἱερός-hieros, sacred, and ἄρχω-arkho, rule) is a system of ranking and organizing things or people, where each element of the system (except for the top element) is subordinate to a single other element.

"The diversity of the gay community cannot be conveyed through seven characters, especially when all of those characters are white. This is not merely about the decreasing number of gay and lesbian characters on TV. It is about the total lack of people of color, bisexual and transgender portrayals on network television."

The idea of a gay community is complex reflecting the diverse nature of the individuals who make up that community. Not all members of a particular sexual minority participate in, or are aware of, the subculture that may be associated with that minority. In addition to simply not knowing that the culture exists, non-participants may be geographically or socially isolated, they may feel stigmatized by the subculture, they may simply dislike it (feeling it is outdated, corrupted, or does not align with their personal taste or style), or they may prefer to affiliate with some other culture or subculture.

There are also a lot of gay men who don't follow any of these subcultures, don't follow so-called gay fashions or worship gay icons. Gay men are individuals, and can't be identified by the way they look or what kind of music they like. There are gay men in every field imaginable, and into all sorts of fashions and music. The trendy gays who frequent certain gay clubs/discos and Gay Pride festivals are not necessarily typical of the average gay man in the country, many of whom are to some extent still in the closet. Not least because the commercial gay scene with its very limited range of music/fashions/gay icons etc. excludes everyone who doesn't fit in with this image. This could be described as 'gay fascism' - if a gay man prefers long hair, a 1950s quiff, a mohawk, dreadlocks or liberty spikes to a shaved head or a #1 cut he may feel unwelcome in many gay venues. A gay man into Rockabilly, 1950s Rock'n'Roll or Blues, hot rods and the Teddy-boy/Rockabilly look, for instance, might find little of appeal on the commercial gay scene. The Queercore movement as well as the group Gay shame critiques the commercialization of gay society.

Answer 8

I concur, absolutely, unreservedly and unequivocally. You need not ask for any more pronounced indictment or charge of hypocrisy against "Gay" culture than to cite "gay" humor, as it is used as a weapon by gays against gays and the way some (certainly by no means all) gays tend to congregate within rather narrow social strata and professional fields of occupation. Is "mainstream" society only for those who truly wish to integrate?

Answer 9

Yes actually straights do, do the exact same thing. Not just straight men, but women to, and to other women, girls will call another girl fat, whore, skank, lesbo, behind their backs or even to their face. Men will have an affair with their best friends sister, or their girlfriend. It doesn't matter what sexuality you are, you will normally find yourself insulting your own gender.

Answer 10

these days yes. that is so true. when i came out in 1979 things were very different. everyone knew each other , life was good and the most important thing was to have fun. then aids came along . those who didnt die went into hiding and lots of gay boys and girls came out with no one to mentor them. its sad really because i valued the lessons i learned from those wise old queens that had been around for years.