Since when is taxes on the rich "stealing"?

Question

I have seen several people talking about taxes on those making more than $500,000 a year and calling it "stealing". WTF? So it is okay for middle class people to be taxed at 30%, but if we ask for an increase in taxes on wealthy Americans, it is stealing? The American dream has become an American nightmare, where people only care about the well-being of themselves and could care less about less fortunate Americans. Let me horde a little more money for myself while less fortunate people are left out to dry. I would never wish evil on anyone, but some of you rich f**kers are going to end up in a wheelchair someday for being so selfish, and then you will see that not everyone lives in mansions and country clubs. It is truly sad.


p.s. I work with developmentally disabled adults and children and am a proud member of the democratic party.

Answer 1

It is sad and unfortunate. It's the me generation taking over. Just how much money does one person need? Once you accumulate a few million dollars and have everything you need and more, what the heck does any one person need ten, fifty, a hundred, two hundred, half billion dollars for? It's greed my friend, and a very non-caring attitude. It's killing our country.

Answer 2

Stealing: taking by force or coersion what is not rightfully yours. All income taxes are stealing, the income level is irrelevant. Income taxes are stealing because it is the taking of private property without consent or permission, with no possibility of recourse. Taxes are forcibly taken from you under threat of incarceration. That is the very definition of stealing.

The only fair tax would be a luxury sales tax. No taxes on anything essential (food, shelter, water, etc). And being a sales tax, it would be the same rate for all people. This would allow poor people to pay no taxes, because they would only buy essentials. The "rich" would pay the most taxes because your average joe would buy a TV for $200, while the "rich" buy a TV for $2000. Both get taxed at 10% (for example), so they both are taxed at the same rate (which is fair), but the "rich" pay more because they buy more expensive stuff.

Stealing is any tax dollars that I don't have the option of not paying. Which is all of them at the moment. Even if the tax is for a good cause (helping disabled or whatever), it is still wrong because there is no choice, therefore no freedom, therefore it is stealing.

I ought to help my fellow man, whether I make $5,000 or $500,000. But it is my choice because it is my property that I fairly earned. Taking it from me and giving it to another, under threat of incarceration is theft.

Answer 3

Contrary to what Nancy Pelosi and the democrats say, the rich pay more in taxes than the lower income, and a larger percentage of their income. I will show you 4 examples, your rich person making $500K, and upper middle class making $85K a lower middle class making $40Kand someone making $20K. Asssume these are all single, and of course not including state taxes using 2006 tax brackets.

$500K will pay $154,861 or 30.97% of their income
$85K will pay $18,132 or 21.33% of their income
$40K will pay $6,558 or 16.39% of their income
$20K will pay $2,623 or 13.12% of their income

How can anyone say the rich pay less? The less you make, the less you pay, and the lower percentage you pay. We can also compare these numbers to what the democrats would like you to pay. Lets take these same numbers and compare them to 2000 before the republican tax cuts.

$500K would pay $175.670, or 35.13%
$85K would pay $21,031, or 24.74%
$40K would pay $7,788, or 19.47%,
$20K would pay $3,000 or 15.00%

The person making $20K would have $377 more, that doesn't sound like much but if you are living on $20K a year that is your phone service for a year, if you are making $40K you are saving $102 a month, that is half a car payment. Yes the rich got the biggest tax breaks, but they were paying the most to begin with. The rich pay the most dollar for dollar. Keep believing the rhetoric, and don't look at these numbers if you want. But the fact remains the richer you are the higher percentage you pay, and less you make the lower percentage you pay. And everyone, the poorest of the poor to the richest of the rich pay less in taxes with the republican tax cuts.

I urge everyone go to the link at the bottom and scroll down to the tax calculator and put in what you made to see what you pay, and compare it to 2000, and see what you have saved. Can you now buy that new TV? Are you saving enough to be able to afford the new car? Or are you now able to run the air conditioner longer because you can afford larger electric bills? Think about it, and see we need to keep the tax cuts.

Answer 4

Well, taxing the rich (or anybody else for that matter) is not stealing. But, your questions also has inaccuracies in it-- middle class people generally don't pay 30% federal taxes. More like 15% or 28% tops and that's the top marginal rate. The overall tax is not 28% since we have a graduated tax on the last dollar earned.

And, when people like you talke about "fair" taxes, I 'd like to understand how it is fair to tax somebody 36% when somebody else may get taxed at 15% or or 10%. how is that "fair"-- generally fair is defined as equal treatment.

I have a novel idea-- how about we leave taxes alone and focus on reducing spending. I don't want to give the jokers in DC any more money than they already take from me-- they waste it, spend it on wars I don't support, fund tons of pork and create programs that never go away.

Answer 5

Forced Tax is stealing I agree. I am one of thouse disabled persons and I even see the way the Gov pays for me as wrong lol but hell im not gona turn away the money they give me I would have to be retarted to do that cause I believe I can help people and spend it wiselyer then the Gov if they got to keep it or hand it out to someone else... I will just silently work in my own way to help correct some of these social problems as best I can along with trying to get people to see the dangers of technology and other such things.

Answer 6

the reason it is stealing is because most of the rich are business owners and thus provide jobs to others. When you tax these people enough, they have to lay off workers and other such people in order to continue their business. When you give these people tax breaks it allows them to expand their business (which most do) and create more jobs and help the economy. By taxing the rich in such a manner, you are stealing from the common worker

Answer 7

Fair share is fair share. I don't believe that tax loopholes given to the rich or large corporations create any more jobs. How many more jobs were created when Exxon reported their $900M profits that quarter? How many were lost when gas was over $3/gallon? It's just one example . . .

If we're all taxed the same, there should be any griping. How can anyone have an issue with this?

Answer 8

Your question has too many flaws to count. For starters, I make nowhere near that money, so cease this nonsense about it only being the rich who screech about tax hikes.
The problem is not who is losing how much money, but the simple fact that it is a large, centralized gov't re-distributing it. Power corrupts, and the more the gov't takes it, the more it will waste. Period. I am sick of Quixotic, self righteous utopians telling themselves they have all the answers. LET THE MARKET TAKE CARE OF ITSELF!
If you think it is only the upper 1% of people who lose with every tax hike, you are kidding yourself.

Answer 9

You *work* with? Hell you ARE developmentally disabled.

I've explained over and over that you support a lawless rogue government that operates without any limits, when you advocate taxing and spending without Constitutional authorization. Why is this so hard for you to understand?

It IS stealing, if the government has no authority to take this money.

And you have no moral standing to judge other peoples' souls or motives, you ignorant prick.

Answer 10

Isn't the American dream built on people caring for themselves? What exactly does the pursuit of happiness mean to you?