would you consider it a crime against humanity if it came out depleted uranium was used in both gulf wars and?

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the attack on the world trade center.
I knew there is a strong correlation between our use of depleted uranium (DO) and gulf war and cosevao syndrome, I saw the horrific pictures of massive DNA damage on the Iraqi children http://www.uksociety.org/us_crimes_against-humanity_1.htm (scroll down page) , I knew we dropped th equivilent to over a quarter million Nagasaki bombs (this articles says over 400,000 Nagasaki since 1991
http://www.rense.com/general67/radfdf.htm but I did not know that it causes a million times more DNA damage than plain radiation.Now I see why these birth deformities are the worse I ever saw in my life.

http://www.thetruthseeker.co.uk/article.asp?ID=2670

I had suspected the use of du tipped rockets during 9-11, the flashes of light prior to striking the buildings are said to look just like DU does in battle: I thought that would explain the intense heat needed to melt the structure of the building and the lungs diseases of survivors and rescue workers and the increased cancer, but I did not know that high geiser counter readings were found at both pentagon and WTC after 911. I found about 200,000 hits on this topic. Here is one article.

http://www.rense.com/general67/radfdf.htm

When one considers Saddam was hung for being found guillty of killing about 180 people, does it seem just if our leaders in government and military killed millions when one considers is wil continue to kill, sicken, and deform for 4 1/2 billion years. If another country had done this to America civilians and our children, what thoughts and feelings would you have. What about do unto others? I am just speculating if such information did come out that we poisoned our troops, innocent civilians, other species, 15 neighboring countries, and future generations in the middle east, if it came out our government was behind 9011 and dropped depleted uranium, condemning in addition to the dead and their families as a result of death, but also all those who survived harrowing trama and suffering and rescue workers and volunteers coming to help and people in the city, what do you think the American people would do....would they do anything? Would some still support our president and his administration and would those calling for justice or punishment be considered traitors? I am certain people will criticize me for asking the question but my research bothers me and so does injustice. Will anything under the sun push apathy from our citizens? Will anything ever change the hearts of those convince of the morality of our leaders and parties?

why don't you surprise us and admit that liberals can be every bit (or generally much more) spiritual, religious, Christian, patriotic, and America as you claim to be. You have heard the lies of druggie conservative talk show hosts so long you believe you have a lock on loving your country and Gos but if one loves they want their country to be the best it can be and if one loves God, they follow His son's, the prince of peace's, teaching on loving others and the least among us.

BTW, I do think OJ was guilty, am prolife, and will not apologize for my beliefs that laws that are unjust are not laws and wanting your country to be what it should be is the highest form of patrism...noble statesman throughout our history books said so. I suggest you look at the following quotes to glean some understanding about patriotism and righteousness and I will bhe surprised if I meet a conservative who who not just into himself and his money.

even g h w bush is in these
Bryce, James
"Our country is not the only thing to which we owe our allegiance. It is also owed to justice and to humanity. Patriotism consists not in waving the flag, but in striving that our country shall be righteous as well as strong."

Abbey, Edward
"A patriot must always be ready to defend his country against his government."



Emerson, Ralph Waldo "When a whole nation is roaring Patriotism at the top of its voice, I am fain to explore the cleanness of its hands and purity of its heart."


Humphrey, Hubert H.
"What we need are critical lovers of America - patriots who express their faith in their country by working to improve it."


Chesterton, G. K. "My country, right or wrong," is a thing that no patriot would think of saying except in a desperate case. It is like saying, "My mother, drunk or sober.


Schurz, Carl
"Our country, right or wrong." When right to be kept right; when wrong to be put right."

Alexis de Tocqueville
"America is great because America is good. When America ceases to be good, America will cease to be great."

Adams, Samuel
"The liberties of our country, the freedom of our civil Constitution, are worth defending at all hazards; and it is our duty to defend them against all attacks. We have received them as a fair inheritance from our worthy ancestors: they purchased them for us with toil and danger and expense of treasure and blood, and transmitted them to us with care and diligence. It will bring an everlasting mark of infamy on the present generation, enlightened as it is, if we should suffer them to be wrested from us by violence without a struggle, or to be cheated out of them by the artifices of false and designing men.


Edmund Burke
"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing."

Samuel Adams
"If ye love wealth greater than liberty, the tranquility of servitude greater than the animating contest for

freedom, go home from us in peace. We seek not your counsel, nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you; May your chains set lightly upon you, and may posterity forget that ye were our countrymen."


Bush, George H.W.

"You do not reform a world by ignoring it."


King Jr., Martin Luther
"Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about things that matter."


Kennedy, Robert F
"It is from numberless diverse acts of courage and belief that human history is shaped. Each time a man stands up for an ideal, or acts to improve the lot of others, or strikes out against injustice, he sends forth a tiny ripple of hope."

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Malcolm X
"You're not to be so blind with patriotism that you can't face reality. Wrong is wrong, no matter who says it."

I heard Doug Rokke speak and was also informed about du from a US congressman from Ohio on top of my research. Those working with du are deliberately misinformed by the government..their own military documents suggests covering up the massive environmental and health benefits. They lied to Rokke about his own poisoning. He is a dying whistle blower and one of the world's foremost authorities on du and head of medical program..here are a couple of the many quotes about him..

Finally, how
about 35 year veteran, Colonel Doug Rokke, Ph.D. as the
Senate commissioned Army's foremost authority on DU
toxicity, of which he will tell you Soldier as a
scientist with tools for measurement, DU is needlessly
killing American service People for our lack of concern
for ourselves at corporate news control. No reason to
be dying! Are not American soldiers, American people to
CNN also? http://colorado.indymedia.org/newswire/display/6070/index.php
WEDNESDAY - OCTOBER 27: DR. DOUG ROKKE, US Army Major and former head of the Pentagon's Depleted Uranium Project, presents further findings on Depleted Uranium casualties from this Gulf War and exposes attacks on those speaking the truth.
Top Web Sites to stay informed on DU:
http://www.traprockpeace.org
http://www.mindfully.org http://www.thepowerhour.com/past_shows/2004_past_show.htm

as I stated the us congressman where I first heard in his writings and speeches and personal meetings, denis Kucinich, is highly regarded even by republican leaders as extremely principled and highly intelligent. As a former teacher of gifted children and a parent of two highly girft ed kids, I am adept at picking it out and Kucinich is very highly gifted..very spiritual, and has a proven record of honesty. I trust him but I have done much research, including seeing a goverernment document about covering it up and this is easy in our corporate owned media...most of the world is aware of our use of WMD's and thus hate us and not without cause. There are pictures of our own Gulf war one troops with kids with missing limbs and eyes and some have been tested and found to have radiation poisoning. About 67% of gulf war 1 vets (where we first used DU) have kids with serious birth defects. Wives have gotten sick from having relations with thier husbands and many thousands have died.

there is also evidence of use of nondepleted uranium in this war. If one breathes the dust left after strikes that constantly is put back up in the air for billions of years by winds and passing vehicles, they have terrible effects. How one can look at the opictures of these infants and children and feel no compassion for them and their parents and grandparents are beyond me. We as people have much more in common than in differences and as a person told she has a heart of gold and as a compassionate and caring person, I feel for the victims and even for us who have so lost our way..those who are so like the pharasees but blind to their hearts of stone while claiming moral superiority will one day see the error of their ways. I love people, I love my country, but I am ashamed of what our government and military and corporations have done and of the people who condone it at all costs. In addition to the quotes of statemen, I suggest some of you reread your Bible and things like

love and pray for your enemies (and Iraqi people never did anything to be our enemies seeing how even the president said they were not involved in 9-11, about love being the most important things, about loving your neighbor as yourself, about blessed are the peacemakers, and helping the least among us and being the good samaritan. It is sad that so many sterotype,,,you guys the liberal (55% of the population in america--saying they all think identically..even in my birth family of 8, none think identically...and sterotype Moslems and people of other countries. People treat you as you treat them generally. It is perhaps the most grievous crimes against humanity ever and as far as 9-11..the perfect thing..to know some eople will never believe what they got away with no matters how much is found out, Still a recent poll showed only 16% did not feel the government was not lieing about 9-11 so you, my friends, are in the minority..

Answer 1

What Government Documents Admit

"If DU enters the body, it has the potential to generate significant medical consequences. The risks associated with DU in the body are both chemical and radiological."

"Personnel inside or near vehicles struck by DU penetrators could receive significant internal exposures."

From the Army Environmental Policy Institute (AEPI), Health and Environmental Consequences of Depleted Uranium Use in the U.S. Army, June 1995

"Short-term effects of high doses can result in death, while long-term effects of low doses have been implicated in cancer."

"Aerosol DU exposures to soldiers on the battlefield could be significant with potential radiological and toxicological effects."

From the Science Applications International Corporation (SAIC) report, included as Appendix D of AMMCOM's Kinetic Energy Penetrator Long Term Strategy Study, Danesi, July 1990.

This report was completed six months before Desert Storm.

"Inhaled insoluble oxides stay in the lungs longer and pose a potential cancer risk due to radiation. Ingested DU dust can also pose both a radioactive and a toxicity risk."

Operation Desert Storm: Army Not Adequately Prepared to Deal With Depleted Uranium Contamination, United States General Accounting Office (GAO/NSIAD-93-90), January 1993, pp. 17-18.

What the Government Is Telling Us

"The Committee concludes that it is unlikely that health effects reports by Gulf War Veterans today are the result of exposure to depleted uranium during the Gulf war."

From the Final Report: Presidential Advisory Committee of Gulf War Veterans Illnesses, December 1996.

Answer 2

Depleted uranium hasn't spread pollution all over Europe, Pakistan and India. That is ridiculous, there is no way it could contaminate an area that large. Where did you hear that? It could contaminate a room maybe, but that's about it. Same thing with lead. Why do you think indoor gun ranges are well ventilated? Depleted uranium is toxic, but its dangers have been blown way out of proportion. It's just a very dense metal and like all other metals of such density it has some toxic properties to it.

Answer 3

Do you actually know what depleted Uranium is? It isn't explosive. Putting it on the tips of rockets would be useless. Depleted Uranium is used as a sabot round because it is extremely dense and will penetrate pretty much any kind of armor. Any kind of radiation given out by the shells is probably less then you would get from standing out in the sun for 5 minutes.

Soldiers handle these shells wearing only normal gloves. If there was ANY indication that these shells would cause radiation poisoning then the crews of the tank would refuse to enter the tank no matter how many times they were ordered to.

Depleted Uranium shells work by punching a hole in an enemy vehicle so fast that the entire interior explosively decompresses due to the great changes in pressure as the air inside is sucked out the hole that the round makes as it exits. This is much more effective than standard High Explosive rounds because even composite or reactive armors have a difficult time stopping these things.

Bottom line, there is minimal evidence that DU leaves radioactive residue, DU is not used in rockets, and DU is definately NOT used as nuclear material.

I would suggest doing some real research into Chemistry instead of websites devoted to conspiricy theories.

Answer 4

Americans usuly known across the world for their Love America and Hate other policy. But what u have put in the question will really make this image change.

I dont know how many poeple who will answer your question (or dont answer) will at least go through the links you have provided.

Its not about what you have put is 100% true or not but how do you see other people in the world, How much human you are towards others.

Unless and untill more and more people in america think in this way its not going to change. Hope you will complete your research successfully and bring it to attention of the whole world, make people think. Do we really need such weapons? Do we really need war?

Very brave question dude! Hats off to you.

And the answer is "It is indeed a Crime".

Answer 5

I know that no matter what I say to you it is not going to matter.

There is absolutely not one shred of evidence that what you have said here is true. And... you know it.

I have to wonder what motivates a person like you to do this. I wonder if a person like you wants to see the United States destroyed. If you do then you are contributing to it. If you don't welll then, you are still contributing to it.

If you believe you are somehow helping the situation you could not be more wrong.

Yes, mistakes have been made but the leaders of the United States are not some kind of horrific monsters that they would intentionally set out to kill innocent civilians no matter where they are, New York City or Baghdad, Iraq.

Perhaps you are "protesting" based on ideals. Perhaps you are young and can't fully understand the consequences of what your "protesting" is accomplishing. Ask yourself that, what is my "protesting" accomplishing and who am I benefitting. Ask yourself if you are seeking the truth or did you find a conspiracy theory that satisfies what you want to believe.

Your research bothers me too because you stop researching when you find information that points to blaming the leaders of our country. There are dozens of news media outlets that would like nothing more than to find undeniable proof that the United States has perpetrated these crimes on oursleves and others. NOT ONE news organization can find that proof because it does not exist. That doesn't satisfy you though. You seek out groups that succeed in sparking doubt in peoples minds based on flawed evidence and you believe what they tell you. Or you don't but you try to convince others to believe it

It all comes back to one thing though, ask yourself what you are accomplishing and who are you trying to benefit.

If you are honest about the answer to that question you will realize how fundamentally wrong you are.

Answer 6

It is a known fact that Bush / Rumsfeld have used depleted uranium in bombs and then dropped them in areas where not only insurgents were but also US troops. His daddy also dropped them in the first gulf war...aka Gulf War Syndrome..The problem is the Corporate run Media will not report it. You will never see a report on this in the main stream media. So be vigilant, inquire and spread the word when possible.

Answer 7

DU was used in the gulf wars. The military doesn't deny using DU in penetrating munitions. I'm not really convinced those are DU victims in your cited webpages. I could google pix and attribute them to anything I want aswell.

However DU wasn't used in the 9/11 attacks just 4 passenger jets loaded with fuel.

Do you even know what DU is and how it is used?

Answer 8

You are beyond seriously misinformed. A good laugh, though.

That many, 250,000 hiroshima bombs, would have polluted much of the planet. There would be a pandemic of thyroid cancer, etc. There is none.

Answer 9

Under The previous GOP-led Congress, and the extensive studies, it was concluded that, there is no such thing.

Answer 10

Once again, liberals buy into anti-American propaganda that originated in communist chat rooms.

Surprise us all for once and say:
"America is great."
"God is good."
"OJ was guilty."
"Sharpton is a racist."
"I'm sorry for being a traitor."