in proscution of a teacher who got dissmissed form her postion as a teacher because she mentioned religous beliefs to a young child during recess what are reasons she doesnt have a case according to the constitution ?
2007-01-07 08:38:09 · 11 answers · asked by annieson 1 in Politics & Government ➔ Law & Ethics
Separation of church and state. I don't pay tax dollars for people to proselytize kids in school. Do that at church.
2007-01-07 08:40:33 · answer #1 · answered by Catspaw 6 · 1⤊ 0⤋
I don't know the case, but I would suspect that this woman had some strong religious beliefs and, like many such people, she wasn't satisfied to keep them to herself but felt the urge to get out there trying to "convert" others. This is all well and fine if the individual you are attempting to indoctrinate is a full grown, self-determining adult with the ability to tell you to shove it. But a small child can not only be powerfully influenced by an adult, but in the school setting that kid is also a "captive audience". Nobody has the right to try introducing personal belief issues to a young child, in, or out of the school setting, but especially not in a school setting where the child has no choice but to listen.--not to mention behind the back of, and without the express permission of that child's parent, or other legal guardian
When you ask what would be the reasons she doesn't have a case, I take it you mean a case for the appeal of her dismissal, I would say those I gave above pretty much cover it. Her job in that school was to teach the subjects of the curriculum that she was qualified to teach. Beyond that, there are some very clear boundaries when it comes to interfering in any way with parental rights to raise their child along whatever lines of belief the PARENT chooses. This teacher, no matter how strong her own personal religious convictions were, had no authority to intrude them on to a child in that school, and she exceeded those boundaries when she attempted to do so.
2007-01-07 17:39:26 · answer #2 · answered by sharmel 6 · 0⤊ 0⤋
Students ask me questions about my religious beliefs all the time, during school hours. They all get the same answer: "I don't talk about my personal beliefs at school." It may seem like a weird response, but it is the only one that will cover my tracks adequately. I love to debate religion and beliefs, but not in that setting. It is simply inappropriate.
As for your teacher who was mentioning personal beliefs at recess? I don't think it is appropriate. Is there a legal remedy? It depends on where you live. Is it a religious area? Will people press the fact that the separation clause of the First Amendment was violated by a teacher?
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2007-01-07 16:43:10 · answer #3 · answered by Jackson Leslie 5 · 0⤊ 0⤋
The reason is simple, there's such a thing as separation of church and government. How would you like it if a teacher used his/her position to indoctrinate YOUR child into some wild@ss religion instead of teaching academic subjects?
Don't blame immigration. Go back to school, or look up Madelyn O'Hara. Bless her bones! If I want my children or grandchildren to learn about religion, I'd want it to my MY religion and for that, I'd accompany them to the church of my choice.
Kids today are having enough problems learning to read and write and do math without further distractions and nonsense! I don't need my grandchildren indoctrinated into some b/s religion, and that is not what I pay taxes for!
If you want your child to learn religion, then it is YOUR right to enroll your child in a parochial school that teaches YOUR religion and it is also YOUR responsibility to encourage and/or take your child to the church of your choice during YOUR time, not during the time my child is trying to learn to read, write and learn math.
Some religious groups are really abusing this issue by demanding prayer time just before each and every class... let them pray at home! Why should they take time out from the other children's learning time? Why should the other children be subjected to their prayers... what if they're just using this as propaganda to indoctrinate your children into another religion or a wild@ss sect of some sort? Religious differences has caused so much strife and killing throughout history... we don't need fanatical debates of this nature going on in our schools; we need our youth educated, not indoctrinated by those in a position to exert influence!
Read the Constitution. That's the Law of the Land!
2007-01-07 16:51:56 · answer #4 · answered by Anonymous · 0⤊ 0⤋
A public school is funded by the country. If she mentioned religion to him during recess, during school hours, she could not have a case BECAUSE she violated the constitution. Thus, she had no protection because talking about religion in schools is violating a person's first amendment rights. She also probably told this boy he and his family were going to Hell for their beliefs or something like that.
2007-01-07 16:42:04 · answer #5 · answered by <3 See Jane Run <3 2 · 0⤊ 1⤋
Seperation of Church and State was a Legal Opinion that gained strength and has been used to deny people in public areas their 1st Ammendment rights.
No where in the Constitution do the words Seperation of Church and State appear. However, the whole idea behind the 1st Ammendment was to keep "Government" out of YOUR choice of religious practice.
The "Liberal/Socialist" wants to keep Christianity out of Government at all costs. You'll notice there are no attempts against Muslims, Hindus, Jews, etc. JUST Christianity...
As a matter of fact, it's so bad. The majority in America are of the Christian belief (Catholic/Protestant) and have to pay through taxes to representatives who deny them their rights. They pay the prosecutor and their lawyer in the case.
Isn't that infuriating?
2007-01-07 16:46:11 · answer #6 · answered by James B 5 · 0⤊ 0⤋
When I was going to grade school we began our morning with the Lord's Prayer and the Pledge of Allegiance. The worst thing that happened the entire time I was in school was when a couple of kids stole their moms car and went joy riding. And I was in that car.
The reason religion is such a problem now though, is because of all the immigrants we have sucked up to here in this country. If we would make them conform to our system, all of our problems would be much less dramatic as they are now.
2007-01-07 16:42:30 · answer #7 · answered by Anonymous · 0⤊ 1⤋
Religion keep it out of schools ...she had no right to
extend her belief to a child ..
I see on this site ..some of the sick people who interpret
religion in a sick manner ..these people who can't even string two words to gather to make a sentence ..they think they are the messengers of God ..
Don't believe me ..post something regarding religion and see these sick Bible bashing morons acting like the coming of a new measie...
2007-01-07 17:04:07 · answer #8 · answered by JJ 7 · 0⤊ 0⤋
I have never hear of anybody being prosecuted for that. Dismissed, yes, but I have never heard of charges being brought.
If you want your child to learn a religion, send them to private school. It isn't illegal to learn about it in school, just not on the public's dime.
2007-01-07 16:48:27 · answer #9 · answered by diogenese19348 6 · 0⤊ 0⤋
It is a separation of church and schools. No prayers or teaching of religion is allowed in public schools. Sheesh... don't even know if someone could say "God Bless You" if you sneeze in school. I think it is awful.
2007-01-07 16:46:35 · answer #10 · answered by Anonymous · 0⤊ 1⤋