What do you think of men's rights activists?

Question

What do you think about men's rights groups who believe there is sexism against men (but also believe in equality)? Do you believe it is sexist to support equality by supporting men's rights as well as women's, rather than just supporting women's rights?

Answer 1

I support women's rights and I don't think there is anything wrong with supporting men's rights either. As long as it's not a blame game and both the causes are working to make life better for both sexes.

Answer 2

I cannot agrue with you. Anyone who gets on the bandwagon of men's rights, is degraded though. Women have special laws which guarentee their equality. Minorities have their special laws. Aged have their protections ect, but the White Male age 18-50 have no particular rights protections. The aurgument is that they do not need them. If I look at a woman the wrong way, I can be accused of sexual harrassment on the job, but if a woman does the same thing, she is paying you a compliment and learn how to take it. WIC --- a very good program excludes one major segment of the population --- males who are single parents. Where in Women Infants and Children are men invited to participate? Go out to a bar and they have "Ladies Nights". What about Men's Nights? Go to a popular oil change chain around where I live and they have Lady's Day where an Oil change for a Lady is half the price as it is for a man. If they instate a draft, which is being talked about, will it be only for males age 18-27? or will it include both males and females? Is it sexist to allow females a role in the US Military, but exclude them from the draft? At what point is Equality truely equal and at what point does society truely want equality for all?

Answer 3

no, I support equal rights.
I just hope people don't turn things into a gender war and ignore the real problems.

like with domestic abuse- a smaller # of men are abused.
but some people could say that women are abusive and smear females- thus the victims will have less help.
the arguments would turn into which sex is worse, instead of the acutally problem- domestic violence and stopping it.

Answer 4

It's pretty much become necessary considering feminists continue to blatantly lie and spread myths about important issues in order to make a claim of "inequality" or "need for special support".

Doesn't matter if you show feminists hundreds of highly credible academic studies, they continue to argue and dream up other ways in which they must be oppressed. They have been allowed to get away with this for a very long time and men's human rights have become seriously curtailed as a result.

It is a little hard to see that feminism is about equality when the end results are a slew of special privileges for women, with men being seriously marginalised and feminists who claim to be about equality attempting to demonise men or justify even the reprehensible like giving a woman an award for burning her husband to death, by claiming she was analogous to a war hero (yes this was said on here and the person who said it has answered the question above):

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/1651234.stm

Basically for actual gender equality to be reach a men's movement is 100% necessary, because men will never really accept a completely feminist view of things and things must be worked out in a manner acceptable to both sides.

EDIT: Hey wendy, Serin owned you pretty bad in my last thread about the wage gap eh? You deleted your post? Awww. Such intellectual courage! Cummon keep your "sources without an agenda" out there for everyone to see! 70c to a man's dollar eh? Hee.

And I don't know why you keep bringing up Valerie Solanas, you were the one who got all hysterical when I called her a murderer, forcing me to admit "attempted murderer" just so you could compose yourself...

Answer 5

I think that men's rights activists and groups have become essential because feminism has failed women and failed society by its portrayal of women as victims of men, women being victimized because they are a minority, women being victimized because they are the primary caretakers of children and the home, women being victimized in the workplace, women being victimized by not getting paid enough, and on and on and on.

I grew up with feminism at the beginning of the movement, and back then it was helpful and inspiring. Now it is perverse, claiming that women are victims, while advocating that women have a duty victimize anyone who says that women are not victims.

It's awful, it's not the same ideology that made me feel strong and hopeful when I was young, and I wish it would go away because it's utter nonsense. Everyone is losing under the present incarnation of feminist ideology, especially men, women and children.

Answer 6

I think that both genders rights should be protected against any kind of sexism. Both sexes need to adopt an attitude of mutuality where neither sex is discriminated against because of sex, race, religion, ableism, age etc. As long as there are individuals that feel that they are better than others equality will never be achieved.

Answer 7

Men have the right to defend themselves the same as women do.

Answer 8

I have absolutely no problem with "equalists" (egalitarians), and although I describe myself as a feminist, I think my personal leanings are more toward the equalists because I've always understood the particular challenges men face because of social stigmas and gender expectations, that are comparable to challenges faced by women. I have to say, though, that from what I've seen on this board...I'm not too impressed in regard to the MRA's. A lot of them seem more interested in insulting and
demeaning women rather than advocating for men's rights. And the MRA sites that I've looked at are little better...can't a discussion be had discussing the challenges that men face in family court and domestic violence issues (as well as others) without painting all women as little better than whores who lie and maneuver to get pregnant so that they can take every man for all he's worth, beat him, and then dump and make him her "wage slave" for the rest of his life? And making statements such as, "Over half of rape allegations are false..." That's just INSULTING to women! It's akin to saying "Over half of all men are rapists." Such hyperbole isn't likely to get them any farther than the radical feminists did in the feminist movement..."Valarie Solanas" never did anything for feminists. It was the rational, moderate feminists that made all of the steps forward for women. I think these guys could stand to remember that. Of course it's not sexist to support men's rights as well as women's, that IS egalitarianism.

"Daddyspanks"-My brother in law got custody of his three children after a messy divorce, and he was eligible for WIC because one was an infant, and another a toddler. Maybe there are different rules state to state, but I don't think men are automatically excluded because the program is called "Women's."

EDIT--"Happy" From what I'VE seen, it's MRA's like YOU who blatantly lie and spread myths, using "sources" with obvious agendas (and plenty of lies of their own) and non-rigorous, skewed statistics to back your claims. Again, I would love a rational discussion about gender biases that exist for BOTH sexes in our culture, but your hate rhetoric makes a rational discussion impossible. Your tactics are no more "necessary" than Valerie Solanas' tactics were, and will get you just as far. Good luck with that.

EDIT--I've OWNED you on every other question YOU'VE asked...but I'm certainly not boasting. It's far too easy.

Answer 9

I think they are *******. Sure some legislation has been biased against men on recent years, such as child custody laws etc. Most places are now recognising this and correcting the balance. As a man I don't think that we need a Men's Right Movement parallel to the Women's Movement of the 60s and 70s. Our situation is quite different.
PS I think the girls should also admit they have got what they asked for and move on.