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2007-01-05 08:03:26 · 47 answers · asked by ? 6 in Arts & Humanities Philosophy

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God is not a creation just a metaphor of existence, in my opinion, we don't have the capacity to understand the scientific or spiritual meaning of existence......yet, with the evolution of human consciousness we will be able to comprehend the deepness of the paradox that we face in the phases of life and death

2007-01-05 08:23:35 · answer #1 · answered by erik m 2 · 3 0

To answer this question, we must first act under the assumption that God does indeed exist.

Now God is by his very nature is perfect in every way, or as Anselm said, "That then which none greater can be conceived". If God does not fit this description, then He would not be God, but something else of much less power and importance.

Working from the basis that God does exist, and that He must be perfect in every way, the only logical conclusion is that God was not created. How could a being who is perfect be created by a being who is imperfect? Impossible.

Therefore, from logic and reason we can come to the conclusion that most religious people accept by faith. If there is a God then he must be eternal. He had no beginning and he will have no end.

This is hard for us to understand because in our world everything has a beginning and end. It is one of those great mysteries that we ponder and never fully understand. And that is why reason alone is never enough to accept theology. We always run into things that we cannot fully comprehend, and at that point we must have a certain amount of faith fill in the gap.

Hope that helps.

2007-01-05 08:38:17 · answer #2 · answered by friendly_collegedude 1 · 0 0

THE UNKNOWABLE ESSENCE

All the people have formed a god in the world of thought, and that form of their own imagination they worship; when the fact is that the imagined form is finite and the human mind is infinite. Surely the infinite is greater than the finite, for imagination is accidental while the mind is essential; surely the essential is greater than the accidental.

Therefore consider: All the sects and peoples worship their own thought; they create a god in their own minds and acknowledge him to be the creator of all things, when that form is a superstition -- thus people adore and worship imagination.

That Essence of the Divine Entity and the Unseen of the unseen is holy above imagination and is beyond thought. Consciousness doth not reach It. Within the capacity of comprehension of a produced reality that Ancient Reality cannot be contained. It is a different world; from it there is no information; arrival thereat is impossible; attainment thereto is prohibited and inaccessible. This much is known: It exists and Its existence is certain and proven -- but the condition is unknown.

(Abdu'l-Baha, Baha'i World Faith - Abdu'l-Baha Section, p. 381)

Know that an educator without pupils cannot be imagined, a monarch without subjects could not exist, a master without scholars cannot be appointed, a creator without a creature is impossible, a provider without those provided for cannot be conceived; for all the divine names and attributes demand the existence of beings. If we could imagine a time when no beings existed, this imagination would be the denial of the Divinity of God. Moreover, absolute non-existence cannot become existence. If the beings were absolutely non-existent, existence would not have come into being. Therefore, as the Essence of Unity, that is the existence of God, is everlasting and eternal -- that is to say, it has neither beginning nor end -- it is certain that this world of existence, this endless universe, has neither beginning nor end. Yes, it may be that one of the parts of the universe, one of the globes, for example, may come into existence, or may be disintegrated, but the other endless globes are still existing; the universe would not be disordered nor destroyed; on the contrary, existence is eternal and perpetual. As each globe has a beginning, necessarily it has an end, because every composition, collective or particular, must of necessity be decomposed; the only difference is that some are quickly decomposed, and others more slowly, but it is impossible that a composed thing should not eventually be decomposed.

(Abdu'l-Baha, Baha'i World Faith - Abdu'l-Baha Section, p. 297)

2007-01-05 08:20:40 · answer #3 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

The stock answer is no one. Of course, that doesn't really satisfy because we live in a world where almost everything has a beginning and a creator of some sort, like every cause has an effect (Sir Isaac Newton style). Logically, I don't think this pans out. For example if God was created by Pre-God 1, but who created Pre-God 1, Pre- God 2? Basically, it's a mystery with a no-this-life answer.

If you flip over to evolution, it's no easier, if your honest about it. If it all came from the pre-universe dust or muck, where did the dust or much come from?

Might as well ask some knotty questions about time--we don't even know what it is! Does the past exist? The future? Are they connected more than in memory and anticipation? Who knows?

Bottom line: Ask God, when you see Him! :)

2007-01-05 08:17:47 · answer #4 · answered by Bill 7 · 0 0

This "question" is not a true question it is more of a statement because a true believer would never use the words "if GOD exist." He created everything that we can and cannot see and able to do ALL things just by speaking it into existence.

John 1:3 (Whole Chapter)
Through him all things were made; without him nothing was made that has been made.

John 1:1 (Whole Chapter)
[ The Word Became Flesh ] In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

Now I don't want to dissuade anyone from trying to learn about our LORD but I would like for all of us to understand (like so many have said before me) GOD needs nothing from man. He is the beginning and the end and nothing was before him. He is beyond all of incapable understanding.

1 Corinthians 3:19 (Whole Chapter)
For the wisdom of this world is foolishness with God.

Faith comes by hearing and believing and not by sight. Study to show yourself approved.

2007-01-05 09:12:36 · answer #5 · answered by Bishop 2 · 0 0

To be quite blunt, to ask, "Who created God?" is a philosophical error. This is especially true for a being one might consider to be "eternal." The Judeo-Christian God only ever described themselves as "the I AM." To the absolute best capacity of all human languages, there is no way to better quantify God's statement. God simply "is" without any beginning, middle, or end. The definitions of "exist", "existence", "being", "to be", and "is" are direct definitions of one another with no further delineation. They are grammatical tools by which we describe something we cannot better understand. In point of fact, we cannot even now better describe one's existence than the ancient philosophers (providing reasons for continued existence does not work).

For all those who claim "we" "created God," you fail to grasp what God stands for in philosophy. It is not a question of simply how we came to have the understanding of a being such as God. It is more a question of whether such a being can reside within and interact with our realm of existence. Debating whether or not God is "exists" is foolhardy because the concept already does. And, as experience should tell us, a concept can never truly be destroyed. Concepts can only be accepted, denied, forgotten, used, or misused, yet never can a concept effectively cease from existence. Besides, I ask everyone reading this, when we "create" a new philosophical concept, are we indeed creating an entirely new "thing" or are we merely discovering something that did not really depend on us discovering it to make it exist?

This debate is much like saying since we did not know there were two paths to take at the end of the hall until we came across the two paths, the paths did not exist until we discovered the paths. Discovering the concept of "God" (setting aside the question of whether God did the revealing or man did) merely presented us with a choice of which path to chose: 1) the concept of God is inconsequential and therefore irrelevant or 2) the concept of God does have consequence and therefore should affect our lives.

In conclusion, God simply is, with no beginning, middle, or end (in essence, eternality is sometimes better understood as being outside the boundaries of time). The real issue is indeed whether there are consequences for the presence of such a being. Here is where religion steps in. Hope that helps.

2007-01-05 08:53:30 · answer #6 · answered by the_cat_4949 1 · 0 0

Your question assumes God exists, which makes "man created God" an insufficient answer, because it assumes that God came second where religion assumes God came first.

If God exists as is spoken of in the Jewish, Christian, and Muslim faiths, then he is eternal and always has existed. There is no need for his creation. However, looking at the scriptures alone won't do anything more than tell you that. One must have faith in a being greater than oneself.

However, this can be confusing to most people because we conceptualize time as a concrete plane of motion (in most European languages) as we do with space rather than of process and relativity (as in some Native American languages). If time is relative, as relativistic physics theorizes, then it would seem less important what God was doing for the eternity before Earth.

Again though, faith trumps all.

2007-01-05 08:31:27 · answer #7 · answered by ndrw3987 3 · 0 0

A paradox, I'm sure.

According to believers, God said he was, so he is. He came out of nothing, just like the Big Bang. But he claimed his existence, and began to create, and therefore became the first to create. If the Big Bang would have had sentience, and claimed to be God, it would be. But it didn't. The Big Bang, according to science, was part of Nothing, the catalyst to all known existence, but not the 'creator' of anything. 'Creation' began with God, so nobody created Him.

Even the Big Bang is hard to understand, and really, it doesn't matter how we started. It's how we choose to end. We can choose to believe humanity will end in a Big Crush, or we can choose to believe it will end in a Paradise. Either way, God existed, galaxies existed, grass existed, love and hate existed(who created them?).

It all depends on what you want to believe, since the fact was not witnessed by anything nor anyone, and is only recorded in a compilation.

Harder question- How did 'nothing' form? If God doesn't exist, who created humanity? And if chemical reaction is to blame, who created chemicals? If one can't believe that something can exist out of nothing, it's doesn't make sense to believe anything, since in that case, we, and God, wouldn't exist at all.

2007-01-05 09:02:14 · answer #8 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

The fallacy is that everything has a beginning. Some things just are. Physical things must be created. God is not physical, he is metaphysical, which means "beyond physical". Events have a beginning and an end, and therefore must be created. God has no beginning nor end, therefor he did not have to be created. Perhaps asking who or what created God is like asking how much beauty weighs or what color a song is. We are using the wrong tools to try and explain God.

2007-01-05 08:31:17 · answer #9 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

Well the bible tells us that god is the Alpha and the omega, and before him there was no other. It is almost impossible for the limited human brain to process the idea of an indefinite amount of time. This is because all of us had a definite beginning, and everything we know and have ever dealt with has a definite beginning. Therefore the thought of something having always been in existance, like God, is almost immposible for us to imagine.

2007-01-05 08:29:21 · answer #10 · answered by dtrain W 1 · 0 0

Yes, who designed the designer? This question is oft asked and forms the basis of logic and the refutation of absurdity. All the evidence around us shows that things just didn't get to be where they are instantly. They evolved. The simplest things existed a long time ago and evolved to be more complicated organisms, eventually producing tree frogs, whales, and human beings. But they started out simple. By any definition, the concept of a designer of the universe must be a complicated being, which suggests that either (1) god evolved, or (2) some other being designed god. My guess is that that other being has two legs.

2007-01-05 08:09:29 · answer #11 · answered by Anonymous · 0 1

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