Do homosexuals want to have marriage in the eyes of the government or in the eyes of God?

Question

I really don't know so that's why I'm asking.

Seems to me if you want marriage within the confines of man's law then whatever.

If you want marriage in the eyes of God then I can see where this would cause problems.

Rainbow -

What are you trying say? Your answer doesn't make sense.

I don't really know anyone personally who is gay or at least open about it.

So why not go to the source for the answer to my question? I didn't think it was such a stupid question to ask.

Heh, I guess my question might seem obvious to some but I really don't know much about the subject. Being a christian its easy to write it off as one of those things that people do but I really want to understand.

Answer 1

I want LEGAL Marriage equality.
There are already plenty of churches who will preform a marriage cerimony, but without a legal document it holds no legal power and provides no legal recognition or protections.

It is mainly the LEGAL marriage we are seeking to attain. Each church is free to allow or deny whatever couple it sees fit to wed or not. That's not the issue.

We don't need to fight for a right that is already protected and afforded to us, IE spiritual/religious marriage.
It's the LEGAL recognition of these marriages we are fighting for. The Legal access to all protections, priveledges, rights, benefits of a LEGAL Marriage Contract.

All citizens are allowed and afforded the right to freedom of religion, if a church is willing to preform a marriage cerimony there's nothing to government can do to prevent it. But the government simply doesn't recognize these marriages as legally protected and that's what we're fighting for.

Answer 2

The current push is for legal marriage from the government. There are already several churches that will bless same sex unions in the eyes of God. Or gods. Or whatever else people call their deity. (Pointedly trying to remind you that we live in a country that is founded on allowing religious plurality). There are a few smaller groups within each sect trying to get just better acceptance in general, but that's generally not really seen as connected witht he push for marriage (and, incidentally, because religion is such a personal CHOICE, it's not really something I agree with; if a given church doesn't want me, I'll go somewhere where I do belong).

Answer 3

Most people want the same legal recognition as everyone else. The legal implications of same sex marriage impacts things like spousal support, succession after death, tax breaks given to married couples, even pension benefits to the other partner.

Having said that I know that there are many religious people who are homosexual who believe that they are equal in the eyes of whatever god that they believe in. As such, you could argue that it is only as a result of society's interpretation of religion and not some all knowing, all powerful, absolutely incontrovertible decree from some higher power that homosexuals should not be allowed to marry.

If you follow the basic beliefs of many mainstream and peripheral religions that divinity is both all knowing, forgiving and understanding then why would he/she/it really care who an individual wanted to marry so long as it was a loving and caring relationship?

I hate to bring this up but if you look back in European history prior to the Magna Carta (14th century? I can't recall) marriage was not linked specifically with the church. If two people (of course one man and one woman at that time) wanted to marry they merely declared to their community that they were married. The church was actually at one part not involved at all. I'm not sure if it was not a sacrament of the church at that time and only became one after you'd have to look and see.

Hmm that really didn't answer your question I think but that's the best I've got ;), sry

Cheers,

Answer 4

I don't think it's such a stupid question, however, it does presume that all homosexuals believe exactly the same things.

Some want legal recognition of the over 1,000 rights denied us in conjunction with our partners.

Some want a church wedding because their spirituality is important to them.

Some do not want marriage in any form.

Like the plurality of religious beliefs, the community is made up of varied and differing opinions. Marriage in the eyes of a god would not cause as many problems as in the eyes of the very human beings who presume to speak for him or her.

Answer 5

There have been so many kinds of marriage throughout the history of the world the word is essentially meaningless. Evangelical Christians made up one definition of their own and managed to give it the force of law, Non-Christians simply want the same rights under the law as anyone else. Banning same-sex marriage because it's against the bible is no different than banning Muslim, Buddhist, or Taoists marriages for the same reason.

Answer 6

I'll take the state/govt first, since they are the ones that administer all the legal rights that go with marriage. Since all marriage rights are STATE given, religion should have no say in who gets them - this is discrimination at its worst.

I already know that God approves of any two people that love each other to get married.

Answer 7

Marriage in the eyes of God is a misnomer. Meaning God doesn't "register marriage," the Government does. God doesn't approve of marriage, the Government does. You don't go to God to get married, you go to the State to get married. You don't go to Church and say, "I want a Marriage License." You go to City Hall. HELLO? This getting through?

Marriage is a GOVERNMENT RIGHT. Only a religious person would even consider it a god given one. lol. The Government recognizes when you are married and divorced, not god. You don't go to God and say, "we're getting divorced." You get lawyers, because you need it done LEGALLY. Get the picture?

Answer 8

It depends on the homosexual. Some of us want to be married in our church, some aren't religious. Some of us already have a church that lets us marry there. Most of us who want to be able to marry do want marriage in the eyes of the government, because that's kind of what counts most, at least in America. You can only have all of the benefits like hospital visitation, all of the financial and tax stuff, etc. if the government recognizes your marriage.

Still others of us don't want marriage to exist, because we think it's fairly flawed and that there's a better way. But mostly what we want is equality under the law. Most of us think that religions should do whatever they want, but at least the government should protect us.

Good question! Thanks for asking.

Answer 9

That would be Governmental Recognition of Marriage. Newsflash, within the confines of my religious belief I've been married over 6 years now.

Answer 10

Eyes of the government. Everyone is certain that that exists. I already know I'm married in the eyes of my Gods and married in my and my wife's hearts and minds. We need and want legal marriage because it's very convenient not to have to argue these things to doctors, employers, relatives, etc.