Nelson Mandela: 'great statesman' or lousy communist thug?

Question

Why is he considered such a "great statesman"? Mandela, apart from having a likeable personality, has achieved next to nothing in his relatively short political career which saw South Africa rapidly decline to the status of the world's most violent and crime-ridden country, and his greatest friends have been communists and dictators like Fidel Castro, Moammar Qaddafi, Yasser Arafat and Saddam Hussein. His ex-wife Winnie Mandela, is a self-confessed advocate of terrorism and violence and has even committed murder.

He was himself originally incarcerated, not for his political views, but for involvement in 23 different acts of sabotage and conspiring to overthrow the government. He and his fellow conspirators of the ANC and the South African Communist Party were caught by the police while in the possession of 48,000 Soviet-made anti-personnel mines and 210,000 hand-grenades.

Many of his apologists optimistically claim that Mandela may well have had "communist leanings" in his past, but that he has since "put all that behind him". Yet in 1991 he and Winnie went to what they called their "second home" - Cuba - to celebrate the communist revolution with Fidel Castro. In his speech Mandela said: "Long live the Cuban Revolution. Long live comrade Fidel Castro"

"Great Statesman"? Hardly.

Here's a good picture of Comrade Mandela:

http://www.realnews247.com/how_to_be_a_good_communist.htm

Answer 1

thug.

Answer 2

Well I'm original from South Africa and I am not hiding it. I am just wondering if you know what are you talking about, I know that you are Afrikaner, you know exactly what the Boer did to black people in south Africa. You know how many people killed and fed pigs and dogs to the Boers. School children and many more. Nelson Mandela went to jail fighting for black people in South Africa. And well may be those communist were the one supporting him , because those so cold western and American wanted black people to die .How dare you insulting Mandela like that. Well let me tell you what he did , in his short term as president, he did not prosecute, Pick Botha, Louise Pinaar, And many many more.
the truth is when you announce reconciliation you should meant that, alike other hypocrisy. To save those Boers , Afrikaner ***, to go for execution like they did, that is what makes him a great state men. He suffered the poor guy cannot wear a suit more then 30 minutes due to electric he suffered in Robb en Island. His Son and family got killed. How dare you. racist and apartheid still exist in south Africa and Namibia. My great grand father was beaten to white people at the age of 103. and he died in front of me and this happen in 1990.

SO do you know , black people we are trying very hard to reconcile on mandela's words. I have no father because of apartheid in south Africa. Yet nothing done and those people still have money and live in luxury. do not see Mandela stupid for not execute the Boers.

Answer 3

The only difference between a terrorist and a statesman is that the statesman is on your side and wins, the terrorist is the "bad guy" and loses. History is written by the winners, not the losers.

People like Timothy McVeigh and the 9/11 hijackers, who indiscriminately kill innocent civilian men, women and children, are cowardly murderers, nothing more.

Remember, to the British, our founding fathers, who often ambushed and killed them, were "terrorists" as well.

Answer 4

False

Answer 5

Obviously you have your mind (?) made up, so when I say "great statesman" you will lump me in with your other worries: Communists!

You are way out of date, my dear. Communism beat itself to death a few years ago. Don't you have anything else to fear, like maybe that cell phones can give you brain cancer?

You really make me laugh.


Are you a Cuban exile? That might explain it.

And, BTW, what got you thinking about Mandela? Nothing better to do. No more pictures of Che to to desecrate?

Answer 6

You have misread Mandela. He is great and what he did has now established South Africa as the most prosperous and powerful in all of Africa.

Answer 7

As to his wife murdering people and all the other "evils" prove it! You can't, can you? If you condone the imprisonment of Mandela, not only are a supporter of injustice, you are a supporter of torture!

Answer 8

Your realnews source is crapola. Note this by these same lovely folks:

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Thank you.