His reply was:
"Favre by a long shot. Montana's whole career was based on completing a bunch of dink and dunk 5 yard passes. I can do that...no talent required. Montana was a 3rd round pick with no hype. Suddenly, he's the greatest qb to ever play the game? Steve young was a no name has been with the USFL and Tampa. Suddenly, he puts on a niner uniform and he's the second coming of Montana? History shows that the niner QB's were a bunch of no names with teams that actually completed passes down the field. Upon arriving if SF where the worst coast office was in place, and by that I mean completing a bunch of 2-5 yard slants.....these guys were hyped up by the niner loving media. Don't buy the hype....Brett Favre, Peyton Manning, Jim Plunket, Terry Bradshaw.....these guys are all better then Montana hands down."
2007-01-04 07:54:43 · 11 answers · asked by Anonymous in Sports ➔ Football (American)
Joe created miracles. Obviously, this guy is a Packers fan.
2007-01-04 07:59:11 · update #1
Joe created miracles. Obviously, this guy is a Packers fan.
2007-01-04 07:59:13 · update #2
By the way, I am a Niner fan all the way and I wouldn't disagree with this guy's comments but his comments are really stupid. It's fine rooting for your own quarterback, but taking credits from other quarterbacks and making their success irrelevant is just plain jealousy.
2007-01-04 08:14:35 · update #3
Favre, Aikman, Elway, Marino.. What do they all have in common, they are all big time crybabies with no talent. Montana brought the niners to win 3 Superbowls and Young with 2 more. Montana is the greatest thinking man's QB. So what if he threw alot of short passes, that is what was part of the West coast Offense. But he always did it with Style and Class, which none of the other fore mentions suppose to be QB's can say.
2007-01-04 08:07:32 · answer #1 · answered by jenalexsmith 3 · 0⤊ 3⤋
Brett Favre was a second round pick in 1991 (#33 overall) for the Falcons. He went to the Packers and became a QB stud (obviously), winning MVP 3 times in a row (splitting that honor in 1997 with Barry Sanders for his final MVP honor) and one SB victory against New England in 1997. He is close to supplanting Dan Marino in every passng record category if he decided to come back next season. His career has been remarkable.
Montana and Favre have had 15 year careers in the NFL. Favre's numbers show that he is superior statistically. However, Montana has done something Favre has yet to do ... win multiple Super Bowls. Montana has 3 SB victories and 3 SB MVP titles to his name. San Francisco may have been a QB factory, but he is the original product which started that phenomenon. Furthermore, outside of Jerry Rice, Montana didn't have anyone to work with really. Favre has better numbers, but he also had a series of strong WRs during his career from Antonio Freeman all the way to Javon Walker and Donald Driver recently. Also add on the fact that Montana was out for the entire 1991 season (Favre's rookie year).
As for unheralded beginnings, ever hear of TOM BRADY! He doesn't have much on stats, but 3 SB rings on his fingers and showing how solid of a QB he is under pressure sure as hell makes him look pretty good. Stats don't always make you the best person. Besides, you are also trying to compare a current QB with someone who retired 3 years after Favre made his debut in the NFL. If Montana had played the same stretch of time that Favre had, Montana would have similar numbers and still 3 SB wins to Favre's 1.
2007-01-04 08:19:41 · answer #2 · answered by icehoundxx 6 · 0⤊ 1⤋
My husband and I have had a long on going battle over who was better Elway or Montana. I am the Elway fan, having said that I do not agree with the comment. I do not feel that he gave either Montana or Young any credit for being good QBs. I have good reasons for why I do not think that Montana was/is the greatest QB ever, but my reasons are more about the greater accomplishments of the other guys. I believe that both Montana and Young have earned their right to be called great. If his statements were true then why aren't Jeff Garcia and Tim Rattay praised in the same way that Young and Montana are? His excuse would likely be that the salary cap issues made for a lesser team for those guys. I am not buying it though, I would take Montana or Young over Rattay and Garcia, or even Alex Smith any day of the week.
2007-01-04 08:04:41 · answer #3 · answered by Jacy 4 · 0⤊ 1⤋
This guy actually knows what he's talking about. Montana def got credit more than he deserved as a quarterback...kinda like Tom Brady does today. Both are winners and good QBs, but more of their success was more due to the systems they were in and the teams they were on than the talent they possessed. Don't get me wrong, these guys are good and are clutch. They are great for their teams, but I just don't think they are the best quarterbacks from a talent and skill perspective. Guys like Peyton Manning and Dan Marino are the best QBs in terms of talent and skill. I know everyone is going to say that these guys haven't won the Superbowl. But does that mean they're not good? C'mon. It takes a whole team to win a Superbowl, not just a quarterback. Peyton Manning is the best QB.
2007-01-04 08:55:12 · answer #4 · answered by Mark R 1 · 0⤊ 0⤋
Ok, here goes ...
First off, in the 2-minute drill, you got to take Montana ... nobody was better with the ball in crunch time than Joe-cool.
Second, Montana played with better players and better system, but still was a probowler in the twightlight of his career with a weak Chiefs team.
Third, Favre has far superior physical gifts (cannon, mobility), so, like Elway, it allowed him to do amazing things that Montana could not.
Fourth, the physical advantage, however, was canceled by Favre's tendency to make huge, crippling mistakes. For every two spectacular plays, there was a bonehead throw .... and Montana never made bonehead throws.
When you look at the stellar playoff performances and almost mythic ability to come up big in big situations, you have to give Montana the greatest of all-time crown. Favre is probably a top-5 all-time QB. He and Elway are surely the two most physically gifted ever. The problem is he simply has not played as well as Montana did, especially in big games.
2007-01-04 08:29:31 · answer #5 · answered by The Brain 3 · 1⤊ 1⤋
Who said this?? This point could I suppose be argued, but I dont buy it. I agree with part, Brett Favre does deserve to be considered one of the best of all time, he has earned that and more. Cant say enough good things about that man.
However saying Montana was nothing special, and saying Jim Plunket of all people is better?? that just makes no sense at all
I do think however that Peyton will one day be considered the best of all time.
However if they have something against dink and dunk passers, thats what bradshaw was.....
I just dont understand it...parts of that make perfect sense and others are asinine retarded remarks...
2007-01-04 08:02:45 · answer #6 · answered by Adam 4 · 0⤊ 0⤋
Montana was a perfect example of a player and an offensive system working perfectly together. Both are needed to be successful.
Steve Young was able to come right in and actually do BETTER than Montana (look at the stats) in the same system.
I would agree with much of what that guy said.
2007-01-04 08:04:21 · answer #7 · answered by mesquitemachine 6 · 0⤊ 0⤋
Its all about winning. Dan Marino, as great as he was, couldn't get it done. I know a QB can't control the talent around him and I don't fault Marino for that. Also, I can't stand the Dallas Cowboys and thought Aikman was overrated also. Having said all of this, I am reluctant to criticize a QB that was a Super Bowl winner.
But the real issue here about all of these "Who was the greatest?" arguments is that you can't compare these things. These guys all played in different offenses on different teams and in some cases in different eras (e.g. Bradshaw & Plunkett versus Manning). At the end of the day, there is absolutely no objective criteria by which to answer these questions.....hence the continuing arguments!
2007-01-04 08:03:24 · answer #8 · answered by lmnop 6 · 0⤊ 0⤋
Montana was a great QB, but I also feel like he was aproduct of the system. He wasn't great at Kansas City, given he was past his prime.
I'd take Elway over Montana. Elway could pass, AND scramble. Any QB that has Jerry Rice to pass to was going to have elevated numbers.
2007-01-04 08:01:37 · answer #9 · answered by usc_cop 2 · 2⤊ 0⤋
I agree. Montana was an average QB with a great team around him. See also Troy Aikman.
2007-01-04 07:58:05 · answer #10 · answered by Old Money 3 · 0⤊ 4⤋