What do you think about Social Security going to aliens?

Question

The government is passing laws that will without a doubt bankrupt the United States. It seems that is the plan as both sides Republican and Democrats are doing it. Now they are going to hand out Social Security to illegal aliens with as little as 18 months working in the country. What are they up to?

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Answer 1

I saw this in the news also and I am not in-favor of this policy. This policy will let Mexican illegals get Social Security after paying 18 months in to the program but not US citizens that have paid in for 9 years. This is crazy.

Call your Congressman/Senator & the President and let them know your view.

Answer 2

I do not like the fact that my tax dollars are going to go to a bunch of illegal immigrants who don't even pay taxes. They wonder why Social Security is going bankrupt it is because of stuff like this. Illegal aliens have no right to collect any benefits, including Social Security, from this country.

Answer 3

I feel very upset after reading about this. I feel that why is everyone making big deals about the immagration if they then in return hand out Social Security only after 18 months. I just don't understand and then on top of all that .... if they aren't legal citizens how are they able to even recieve them ?

Answer 4

If Social Security was a voluntary program, I wouldn't care. Seeing as how it is anything BUT voluntary, the redistribution of wealth to illegal aliens is just another pandering scheme in which money is forcibly taken from one person and given to another. In the real world, we call that theft. In politico-speak, I guess it translates into votes.

Answer 5

The purpose of this law is to protect people who work and pay into the social security system of more than one country. If you work only in the U.S. you generally have to have 10 years (40 quarters of credits) to qualify for benefits. - But suppose you worked during your working years in more than one country- You might get stuck getting no retirement benefits without treaties between countries dealing with the problem. Social security is not a welfare program.

Every penny that was paid into the social security trust fund came from social security taxes on the wages of workers - Politicians have lied to the public about social security. The social security system is actually in great financial shape. It is the rest of the government that is broke. Here is why: Until 1983, social security was a pay as you go system. What went in the trust fund was immediately paid out in benefits and very little was save. But in 1983, congress recognized that there would be pressure on the system when the baby boom generation retires. In order to prevent an unfair burden on the next (smaller) generation of workers, in that year social security taxes were raised by about 1/3 in order to build up a real trust fund to help pay for the retirement of the baby boom generation. In that year, the retirement age for younger workers was also raised to 67 to take into account longer lifespans.

By one measure, the 1983 reforms under President Reagan have been wildly successful, and the trillions of dollars of surplus in the trust fund is now predicted to last at least until 2042 (when the oldest baby boomers will be 96 years years old if they are still alive. When the surplus is gone, Social Security will not be bankrupt - it will just have to go back to the pay as you go system that was in effect before 1983, and if the Baby Boom generation is dead, no changes may be necessary.

In order for the 1983 reforms to work, Congress would have to be responsible and not use the trust fund as its personal piggy bank. But Congress has borrowed and spent all the surplus going into the trust fund and has no plan in place to pay it back. - Or in President Bush's words- replaced the money with a bunch of worthless IOUs. Because the Baby Boom generation has not yet started to retire, Congress will be able to borrow and spend over 150 billion dollars in new surplus going into the trust fund this year - all of which will be replaced by those IOUs. This borrowing from the trust fund has masked the true size of the federal budget deficit.

People who make the minimum wage pay into the system at the same social security tax rate as people making $90,000 per year. The justification for this is that social security is not a tax - it is pension money.

If the CEO's of a big corporation (like Enron or WorldCom) had taken all the money out of their employees pension plan and replaced it with worthless stock or worthless IOUs they would be headed for jail.

When President Bush says reforms to social security are necessary, what he really is asking for is debt relief. Thus we are faced with a real moral issue: Is it right to borrow and spend the money form a pension plan paid for by workers and not pay it back in order to preserve tax cuts for the rich?

Blaiming social security's problems on illegal aliens or the coming retirement of the baby boom generation is a distraction designed to distract the people from what has been going on. Social Security has been looted by congress in order to pay for tax cuts for the rich. And congress will continue doing it until the people start complaining about run away tax cuts for the rich and the deficits that they have caused.

Answer 6

If that is true it would be a very good reason to get a whole bunch of new people in government. That is about the stupidest plan I ever heard of!

Answer 7

it's an absolute outrage.

I'm glad I'm not a young man anymore.

I fear for this country. I also feel that we are not worthy of the sacrifices made by past generations who gave us this wonderful country. What are we going to pass on to future generations?

Answer 8

I think the sooner social security goes belly up the better. Then rational thinking might actually enter the fray.

Answer 9

Personally, I would like to know where they are going to get the money for it if soc sec is gonna run out in our lifetime.

Answer 10

what congress is up to, is trying to secure their jobs, they think that these workers will one day soon be granted citizenship and vote for them. its a sorry state when our elected officials are a bunch of crooks, to me...... i believe that the senators and congressmen look out for themselves before our country.