Sandy Koufax in his prime or Johan Santana?
2007-01-02 17:40:01 · 13 answers · asked by Anonymous in Sports ➔ Baseball
So far Koufax, but with some more healthy years Santana could put up similar numbers:
Santana's sabermetric tests
Black Ink: Pitching - 37 (39) (Average HOFer ≈ 40)
Gray Ink: Pitching - 80 (287) (Average HOFer ≈ 185)
HOF Standards: Pitching - 33.0 (112) (Average HOFer ≈ 50)
HOF Monitor: Pitching - 51.0 (241) (Likely HOFer > 100)
Similar pitchers to Johan Santana through his age of 27 include Tim Hudson, Sid Fernandez, and John Smiley. Similar pitchers though his career include Lefty Williams, Doug Rau, Roy Oswalt, and Dave Dravecky.
Koufax's sabermetric tests
Black Ink: Pitching - 78 (12) (Average HOFer ≈ 40)
Gray Ink: Pitching - 151 (91) (Average HOFer ≈ 185)
HOF Standards: Pitching - 46.0 (48) (Average HOFer ≈ 50)
HOF Monitor: Pitching - 224.0 (16) (Likely HOFer > 100)
Koufax did not learn how to pitch until he was 25 and his dominant years lasted until he was 30. Similar pitchers to Koufax for his career at the age of 30 included Hall of Famers Roger Clemens, Jim Palmer, Tom Seaver, Lefty Gomez, and Greg Maddux.
Note: At age 27, with only two dominant years on his record, the closest pitchers to Koufax were Juan Pizarro, Ramon Martinez and Jim Maloney.
2007-01-02 18:49:36 · answer #1 · answered by romanseight 3 · 1⤊ 0⤋
Johan Santana, not to take anything away from Sandy Koufax, but Johan is over powering hitters jacked up on steroids... something Sandy knows nothing about
2007-01-03 06:28:20 · answer #2 · answered by superman6to9 2 · 0⤊ 0⤋
Santana, by far.
Johan pitches in the American League and has to deal with the designated hitter, Koufax did not.
Johan pitches in a ballpark that most pitchers--if given a chance--could knock the ball out of. Koufax pitched in spacious Dodger Stadium.
Johan pitches on a mound six inches lower than the one Koufax threw off of.
No one touches Johan Santana in today's game. No one.
2007-01-03 12:06:34 · answer #3 · answered by tkatt00 4 · 0⤊ 0⤋
Santana because he is putting up his numbers in a very much more offensive oriented time. I would compare Santana's stats to others in his era and do the same w/Koufax. I bet Santana's are a lot more dominating than Sandy's. They are both huge freaks of nature (in a good way), but I would have to be in the minority and go with Santana.
2007-01-03 04:39:01 · answer #4 · answered by Eho 5 · 0⤊ 0⤋
Sandy Koufax.
2007-01-03 08:00:07 · answer #5 · answered by Anonymous · 0⤊ 0⤋
Koufax would be another 100+ million pitcher. Santana hasn't been in the leagus long enough to really compare him to anyone yet. Give him 5 more years and the comparisons can begin.
2007-01-03 07:32:42 · answer #6 · answered by Oz 7 · 0⤊ 0⤋
It's all Sandy. Sandy was great in a time of pure hitters. Also remember, he is considered on the the greatest pitchers every and he only played a short career due to injury. It's hard to think what he might have done if he had been healthy his entire career. Johan is a great pitcher, but no matter what his stats are, time will tell if he is ranked as one of the best ever.
2007-01-03 12:14:20 · answer #7 · answered by Aaron 1 · 0⤊ 0⤋
Sandy
2007-01-03 01:49:12 · answer #8 · answered by AL IS ON VACATION AND HAS NO PIC 5 · 1⤊ 0⤋
You can't compare generations. It's just too hard. If Koufax faced the smarter, more powerful and overall more talented players today he would'nt have a chance.
2007-01-03 04:31:47 · answer #9 · answered by Anonymous · 1⤊ 0⤋
Sandy all the way. Because sandy had the ERA to go along with his ridiculous amount of wins Santana just has run support.
2007-01-03 02:14:10 · answer #10 · answered by Smooth Move EX-LAX 2 · 0⤊ 2⤋