Are you aware of the intelligent proven statistics which connect gay marriage with child abuse?

Question

If there were no truth to this, why would my postings about Jesse Dirkising and other statistics which prove this very fact keep getting deleted without cause???
"First, we can expect an eventual end to any structural prerequisites for a legitimate sexual relationship. The whole “gay marriage” debate is predicated on the assumption that affective bonds trump the structural argument from Scripture and nature for an other-sex prerequisite. What logical basis will remain for denying marriage to committed sexual unions comprised of three or more persons? In fact, the limitation of two persons in a sexual union at any one time is itself predicated on the idea that two sexes are necessary and sufficient for establishing a sexual whole. Once church and society reject a two-sexes prerequisite, there will be no logical ground for maintaining the sacredness of the number two in sexual relations. It is not surprising that litigants in polygamy cases in Utah and Arizona are now applying the

moral reasoning of the Supreme Court decision in the 2003 Lawrence v. Texas sodomy case. Similarly, a committed sexual relationship between a man and his mother, or between two adult siblings, has as much right to marriage as homosexual unions. Incest prohibitions are predicated on the idea that it is inappropriate to validate a sexual merger between two persons who share too much structural sameness (here, of a familial sort through close blood relations). But an approval of same-sex intercourse cancels out arguments based on excessive structural similarity. Not even adult-child sex can be ruled out of bounds completely, and much less adult-adolescent sex, since some adults who have had sex as children are asymptomatic in terms of scientifically measurable negative effect.

Second, there is good evidence that societal approval of homosexual practice may increase the incidence of homosexuality and bisexuality, not just homosexual practice.
Taken from an article by © 2004 Robert A. J. Gagnon

T• 33% of homosexuals ADMIT to minor/adult sex (7).
• There is a notable homosexual group, consisting of thousands of members, known as the North American Man and Boy Love Association ( NAMBLA). This is a child molesting homosexual group whose cry is "SEX BEFORE 8 BEFORE IT'S TOO LATE." This group can be seen marching in most major homosexual parades across the United States.
• Homosexuals commit more than 33% of all reported child molestations in the United States, which, assuming homosexuals make up 2% of the population, means that 1 in 20 homosexuals is a child molester, while 1 in 490 heterosexuals is a child molester (19).
• 73% of all homosexuals have had sex with boys under 19 years of age (9).
• Many homosexuals admit that they are pedophiles: "The love between men and boys is at the foundation of homosexuality" (22).
(7) Family Research Institute, Lincoln, NE.(19) Psychological Reports, 1986, 58, pp. 327-37.(9) Jay and Young. The Gay Report. Summit Books, pg 275

(22) San Francisco Sentinel, 27 March 1992.
Does this answer your question? Do you have more recent figures?

Answer 1

and did you know that 90% of statistics are made up?

Answer 2

First of all let me inform you that todays definition of "Marriage" is in fact rooted in the "christian" view of what it should be. It follows the morals and ethics, based from a "christian" viewpoint.

Numerous Religions have a staunchly different viewpoint of "Marriage" which include everything from polygamy to practically keeping a wife on a leash.

I am sure that even those religions have sturdy footing with a sound moral code, and some of them aren't even christian.

Did you know tons and tons of heterosexual families have abused their own children, and adoptive children as well? (Sexually, as well as physically, and even mentally) Saying that Gays should not marry, nor adopt strictly because they have abused children is stupid, and holds no weight. (See above)

Do you remember about 100 years ago, the state our country was in?

A black slave was thought of as inferior, both mentally, and spiritually. This was accepted; Practically world-wide. They had no rights, and were treated horribly. At the time, it was commonly believed as well that this was completely acceptable, as well as morally correct, and sound.

Today, we have evolved to the point that this is no longer an issue. You have black CEO's, and the like. (Although some would retort that the world is still unfair to the blacks; but still we have come a long way, and "Rome wasn't built in a day.")

Another controversial topic back in the day was inter-racial marriage. It was seen as dirty, and demeaning. This is entirely not the case today.

I can honestly say that although at the time, many disapprove of Gay Marriage, or of Gays in General, it is futile to say that Gays will not get their fair share of rights in the not to distant future...

Your View that Marriage can and Only be between two consenting male and female human beings is old, and out-dated at best. Your view is clearly a result of the Religious Brainwashing being put to use in our day to day lives.

Again, Marriage is defined by the uniting of a Man, and Women togethor forever through a common bond of love.

Marriage should be defined as the uniting of two human beings that are bonded togethor by love.

Male, Female, there is no difference.

No one has the right to say you can not love this, or that. -only communism does; And last time I checked we were a democratic republic, perhaps moving towards socialism (But thats another discussion...)

But regardless, Im sure you think your viewpoint is superior, both logically as well as from a moral standpoint. So by even answering this im sure your just throwing these ideas out the front door; Becuase your mind is already made up.

But hey, you know what they say:

"Ordinary Morality for Ordinary People"- Aleister Crowley.

Answer 3

I read things like this and want to curl into a ball and cry. These are not intelligent or proven statistics. And considering that there are very few existing gay marriages with which to test this study (since they're still ILLEGAL in most states), where did the studies get their information?

The #1 threat to children is heterosexual males--check out Gavin de Becker's PROTECTING THE GIFT. And BTW, this doesn't mean all heterosexual males, or even the majority of them, are a threat. It means that of the threat, the majority of that subset are heterosexual males.

Answer 4

First off, Jesse was the child of a "straight" couple, not a gay couple. FACT. He may have died because of a gay couple, but he LIVED with his mother who could not have cared about him!

Another fact, (which you so don't seem to care about) is that MARRIAGE IS A STATE AND FEDERAL RIGHT, NOT A CHURCH ONE. Churches have NOTHING to do with MARRIAGE! Sure, you can "get married in one." But the preacher HAS TO FILE IT WITH THE STATE! Or it isn't LEGAL! That's why the Marriage License and everything else is gotten from the State! Because ALL RIGHTS come from the STATE and FEDERAL Government! So, there goes any church interference! Ooops, so sorry!

Straight marriage doesn't seem to be doing so hot these days! Hows yours? What? Your not with your husband? But God says to cling to him as if YOUR ONE FLESH! But no, YOU CAN'T DO THAT BECAUSE YOUR TOO SELFISH! Aren't you? You'd rather shout how abused and misused you are and what God is challenging you with, rather than admit the truth about what an uncaring and dissatisfied woman you are! You know, if you were a better person, perhaps your husband would be happy! As it is, 60% of Straight marriages end in divorce, so yeah, that's something to be happy and proud of, congratulations on tacking your marriage to that 60%! NOT!

Answer 5

While no one as truely complied an stats, it's hard to see any more than exists in hetero situation. Many so-called "religious" hereosexuals have been associated with or accused of abuse, including that Mormon colony recently detailed, the Branch Dividian Church, Jonestown where everyone one of those God fearing "Christians" drank posioned koolade and died or were shot to death by his associates who were filmed shooting people.

Ergo, we have a basis to stop Heteros and Chrisitians from having families, adopting children and making children, based upon these VERIFIABLE issues.

Answer 6

The problem is that many people use statistics like a drunk uses a lamppost, for support rather than illumination.

And any time somone uses the word "Scriptures" in their discussion, the bias is manifest and i cannot honestly believe what they have to say

Answer 7

I think you need more proof, such as citing your work. Yes, you say statistics, but where are the numbers and what is the article that says that?

I think I'm gonna need more info than that. Maybe a link? The info you give isn't adequate enough. A lot of what you said has a point, but I do not find enough proof for your basis. There's a lot of commentary, but not a whole lot of concrete details of numbers, links, or facts.

Answer 8

"Robert A. J. Gagnon is Associate Professor of New Testament at Pittsburgh Theological Seminary. [...] His main fields of interest are Pauline theology and sexual issues in the Bible."

Gee, do you think you could find a source that's even MORE biased if you tried?

http://www.robgagnon.net/

"Intelligent proven statistics"... yeah, right...

Answer 9

"If there were no truth to this, why would my postings about Jesse Dirkising and other statistics which prove this very fact keep getting deleted without cause???"

Because you're spouting epithets and slurs? And the only people who believe you are the Fundies. They'll believe anything.

Answer 10

maybe the way you worded it is too offensive for some or perhaps YA does not want to deal with the hassle of lawsuits that would arise from it.

Answer 11

Since there have hardly been any gay marriages (just a couple of states allow it) how could there be any statistics?