Do you beleive in evolution where things happen by chance, or creation where there is a designer?

Question

This not specifically a religion question, but a practical view

Answer 1

i find that its PROVING something is different than accepting it. for me to believe in something is a function of trust. if trusting in someone does not result in a loss of everything i value then trusting is an easy prospect. however trusting and losing everything is another matter. for some reason when it comes to trusting in evolution or creator i can't answer the question of why does every single thing whether its a concept or an object large or small seems to have a purpose.

if i was in the sahara desert which is larger than the USA and in the middle of nowhere in huge naked sand dune thousands of miles from civilization i found a coca-cola can full of soda with labeling saying MADE IN ATLANTA i could never think it happened by chance arrangement of molecules although it would seem to take a much smaller chance than the arrangement of a single molecule of protein.

According to renowned evolutionist the chance of a protein molecule forming by chance is described as follows:

17 What chance is there that the correct amino acids would come together to form a protein molecule? It could be likened to having a big, thoroughly mixed pile containing equal numbers of red beans and white beans. There are also over 100 different varieties of beans. Now, if you plunged a scoop into this pile, what do you think you would get? To get the beans that represent the basic components of a protein, you would have to scoop up only red ones—no white ones at all! Also, your scoop must contain only 20 varieties of the red beans, and each one must be in a specific, preassigned place in the scoop. In the world of protein, a single mistake in any one of these requirements would cause the protein that is produced to fail to function properly. Would any amount of stirring and scooping in our hypothetical bean pile have given the right combination? No. Then how would it have been possible in the hypothetical organic soup?

18 The proteins needed for life have very complex molecules. What is the chance of even a simple protein molecule forming at random in an organic soup? Evolutionists acknowledge it to be only one in 10113 (1 followed by 113 zeros). But any event that has one chance in just 1050 is dismissed by mathematicians as never happening. An idea of the odds, or probability, involved is seen in the fact that the number 10113 is larger than the estimated total number of all the atoms in the universe!

19 Some proteins serve as structural materials and others as enzymes. The latter speed up needed chemical reactions in the cell. Without such help, the cell would die. Not just a few, but 2,000 proteins serving as enzymes are needed for the cell’s activity. What are the chances of obtaining all of these at random? One chance in 1040,000! “An outrageously small probability,” Hoyle asserts, “that could not be faced even if the whole universe consisted of organic soup.” He adds: “If one is not prejudiced either by social beliefs or by a scientific training into the conviction that life originated [spontaneously] on the Earth, this simple calculation wipes the idea entirely out of court.”

Since these odds are so unreal then i trust the 'facts' of these scientist rather than any 'opinions'. it seems that every single thing in existence on examination portrays that it was 'designed' because its purposefulness is irrefutably the most fundamental property that it has even if its purpose we do not yet understand.

it comes down to the question was it someone or something that caused all these things that i examine and thus i choose creation rather than chance.

Answer 2

This does not have to be an either/or situation. There are two different concepts being compared. And the comparison requires two totally different functions of the human mind. You asked for a practical view so just saying "I believe that Divinity created every thing" or "I think that evolution is the only logical solution" are not real answers to your question.

First, you are speaking about the physical Universe. This is an enormous amount of matter and energy within a huge space-time continuum. The human mind is not capable of comprehending either the numbers within or size and time span of this Universe. Any attempt is never more than a crude model based upon a limited number of assumptions.

Evolution is an attempt to logically justify the apparent change in biological life forms. It does not do a bad job when considering how the human race is apparently getting taller and living longer. It assumes that genetics and DNA chemistry of today is almost identical with those of millions of years ago. It might help determine a driving force as to why the flu virus of this year is different from the strains prominent last year or the year before that. Belief in a creation of perfect forms ignores any changes.

What evolution might have a very hard time explaining is why the group of the shortest people on Earth are in such close proximity to the group of the tallest people on the planet. If the environment has an effect, how could this happen? Another question might be: How is it genetically possible for people with blue and green eyes and blonde or red hair ever to develop if the genes for these traits are resessive to brown eyes and dark hair? The first generation of these traits would be overwhelmed by the dominant genes and never become expressed. Creation declares that this was by design and not the result of genetics.

None of these examples is fully understood. The human mind can give a logical answer based upon assumptions and limited data or it can accept a belief that answers the question but has no basis in either logic or fact. This can happen in the same person. Such is the human mind.

The fault may be in neither the concept of creation by design nor in the theory of logical steps for the changing of life through time. The main problem is that the tool being used (the human mind) is a faulty instrument at best. Those who believe that this issue only has two sides tend to ignore the fact that the problem itself is too involved and complicated for the mind of the person holding the belief.

Answer 3

Evolution is the working theory for those who find it hard to believe that there is anything more important than themselves. The lame arguement that we can't believe in creation because that we can't determine who created God is the dart of cowards. The argument that "God" isn't smart enough to have created such a diverse collection of species is lame because we are limited by our own lack of knowledge of the creation.

One of Darwin's main purposes was to create a theory to show that Europeans were more highly evolved than the peoples of the other continents so that the English would be morally justified in colonizing them by force. He was constantly concerned that his theory was unsupported by any solid evidence and died believing that he had done the world a great injustice.

Every peice of evidence of evolution has been discredited or disproved. No scientist has ever been able to make living matter from non-living matter and not from lack of trying.

Since the soul cannot be a product of evolution, you preporters of evolution are a bunch of soulless bags of mostly water (by your own admission.) Freak accidents of nature. Your great uncle was a chimpanzee, yada, yada, yada.

The Book of the Word of God says all we need to know to understand where we came from and where we are going. It tells us who and what we are and how we should act (should we chose to make use of its eternal wisdom.) The most important thing to know is that Jesus Christ was born a man, lived as the perfect and sinless man and paid the ultimate price of dying for YOUR sins. If you can honestly beleive that and repent of your sins, God will take you into his arms and change your life.

For those who choose to not beleive, you better stock up on your sunblock 1000; that's if you could take it with you ;o).

Answer 4

Look at the creation story. Richard you claim that a perfect God would not do such shoddy work. You are wrong. He made things perfect and He made man with a free will to choose. It was because of mans choice that we have imperfection today. There is no way that things could just happen as they say in evolution. Too many unanswered questions, such as what caused it to happen and what was the beginning of that.

It is much easier to believe in God. God always was and will be. Ther is no Beginning and end to Him. Some may not want to believe in him because it pricks them in there hearts. Because they know they need to come to him and ask for forgiveness and change there ways.

Answer 5

As a working theory, I would go for evolution. I'm perfectly happy to be related to apes (as everyone's DNA suggests we are). Like, once you have to admit that people like Hitler & Idi Amin & Pol Pot & Stalin are all related to you, (whether you go with evolution or creationism), can you really be embarrassed by being related to a chimp or a gorilla?

However, whether all that evolution occurred on this planet is, to my mind, still open to debate.

I'm interested in, but not quite convinced by the arguments that aliens of some sort did some genetic manipulation at various junctures in our past. Now, you may be thinking, "Why is Spell Check! going with aliens & not a deity?" Simply because some of the ways in which humans differ from apes where there is no obvious evolutionary "in between" or "missing link" are examples of incredibly bad design and engineering. I would cite as examples (a) the difficulties human women have child bearing, (b) the racket human babies make, (c) the relatively fragile nature of human bones, (d) underarm smell, (e) underarm hair & pubic hair, (f) the pain & difficulties many women have menstruating.

I would hope that a loving God would be able to come up with a better, more practical design!

Answer 6

In evolution things don't allegedly happen by chance. They happen because they are supposedly the most fit of a certain set. I happen to believe in creation.

Cheetahs- can only run a few times between meals. other great cats don't have this ability, but also don't have this weakness. these other great cats often live in reasonable proximity to cheetahs and feed on the same prey animals.

Platypus- It's a poisonous mammal that lays eggs and has a duck bill. There are only four poisonous mammals in the world. There are only 3 mammals in the world that lay eggs. But the other two are variants of the same species and their eggs are never outside the body. The duck bill just sets it off...

Bats- the *only* mammal that flies under its own power. The earliest bat fossils already have well developed hearing, flight, and "sonar" structures. Must have been a quick evolution.

I still have questions yet to be answered by science so i'll let another force handle this one for now.

EDIT: "I don't "believe" in evolution, because there is enough evidence to make it a statement of fact."

There are no facts in science, only theories waiting to be disproven. To dispute this would be disputing the scientific process.

Answer 7

Evolution every time! There is irrefutable evidence all around us to support evolution but for the Design idea nothing but a mish-mash of quotes taken out of context and deliberately (and badly!) manufactured so called proof.
I find it strange that in what is supposed to be an advanced society such as the US that the population have so little ability to use logic and critical thought in this matter. I now live in a country that is close to 95% Catholic (a backward thinking religion if there ever was one) and yet even here evolution is an accepted fact. Does the education system in the US remove or discourage thinking and logical analysis to replace it with blind acceptance of an unproved leap of faith?

Answer 8

I believe in evolution, but not necessarily a creator/designer. If one can believe that "something" always existed, then why can't it have been just matter vs. a God, unless, of course, you define God by "always having existed" and use your definition of God as proof that there is a God.
And enough with the He/Her, even if you do believe in God. Do you really think a God would saddle itself with a gender? ......with physical attributes and all of the problems associated with them? Would God constantly ***** or refuse to stop for directions? Was the cross symbolic of a street sign that was never paid attention to? Was the parting of the Red Sea simply a metaphor of the Creator's first period?
What does it really matter? Each of us is free to make our own determination and none of us will know unless there is an afterlife. And if we don't believe, and there really is a creator, will that creator hold us accountable for not accepting concepts that we were unable to comprehend? It's not as if we know there's a creator and refuse to accept. We have no way of knowing and can only do the best we can with what has been "provided".
Take it for what it's worth, but it sure beats the **&%$ out of me. (If there is a **&%$)

Answer 9

I believe in the observable evidence left over by fossils, DNA tracings, and the research/writings of evolutionary biologists. Believing in creation requires faith and a blind eye to the evidence. How do you explain the 15 or so hominids that didn't make it, the most popular being the Neanderthals; where's the intelligent design? What are we, the new and improved model?

Answer 10

Evoloution where thing happen by chance ( Surival of the fittest ) it the theory I roll with. A "designer" wouldnt have had the immagination needed to create the utterly atounding diversity found not just in all things, but even just within a species !

If we were designed by a creator, then a lot of religions have got things badly wrong.... because I cant find many that accept every design of Human being, yet surely thier supposed God is the one who designed us all ?

I'd be angry if I met a god and she was the one who drew my plans I can tell you ! I wanted BLONDE and got Brown... I wanted short and I got tall.... Oh... and I got Male ? No no no... WRONG WRONG WRONG. No one could mess up that badly, so yeah... Evoloutions the kid.

Answer 11

'Believe' in evolution where things happen by chance?

Obviously you don't have the slightest understanding of evolution. I suggest you read a bit about it - and not this time from a creationist website with an agenda of spreading disinformation. Nobody thinks evolution happens by chance least of all Darwin. That would be genetic drift, wouldn't it?

If there are two possibilities - it would be best to pick the one that doesn't require believe - or faith - that's going to be the scientific one with all the evidence, isn't it?