The Japanese killed 20M Chinese when they invaded Manchuria while 5M Jews perished in the Holocaust.?

Question

Why then are the Japanese not condemned as hard as the Nazis by the modern society? Is it because the Jews have better propaganda than the Chinese? I wouldn't want to think Chinese lives are lesser than those of Jews.

Answer 1

Where I don't wish to argue your premise, your numbers are of interest. You use the high estimate for the Chinese, but the low estimate for Jews.

Second Sino-Japanese War dead is estimated at 10 million including 3.2 million Chinese Nationalist military. These losses are casualties directly related to the Second Sino-Japanese War but not including losses due to internal conflict, famines and floods.

Total Chinese losses are difficult to estimate due to the fact that there was no census of the population taken prior to the war. Sources that range from 10.6 to 37 million total Chinese war dead were cited by R. J. Rummel. His estimate of total war dead from 1937-45 is 19,605,000. The details are as follows:
Military- 3,400,000 Nationalist/Communist and 432,000 Chinese forces collaborating with Japan. Civilian deaths during the Second Sino-Japanese War were 3,252,000 and an additional 56,000 deaths due to internal clashes.
Victims of repression and atrocities: Japanese war crimes 3,949,000 (including 400,000 POWs); Chinese Nationalist repression 5,907,000 (including 3,081,000 military conscripts); by Chinese Communists 250,000 and by Warlords 110,000. Deaths due to famine were given as 2,250,000.

That being said, most reputable sources site:
China's
1939 Population: 530,000,000
Military deaths: 3,000,000
Civilian deaths: 7,000,000
Total deaths: 10,000,000
Deaths / % of population 1.89%

And if you are looking for numbers, look at what happened to the Russia:

Soviet Union's
1939 Population:168,500,000
Military deaths: 10,700,000
Civilian deaths: 11,500,000
Holocaust deaths: 1,000,000
Total deaths: 23,200,000
Deaths / % of population 13.77%

Lastly, the exact number of people killed by the Nazi regime may never be known, but scholars, using a variety of methods, including documentation from the Nazis of determining the death toll, have generally agreed upon common range of the number of victims. Recently declassified British and Soviet documents have indicated the total may be somewhat higher than previously believed. However, the following estimates are considered to be highly reliable. The estimates:

-- About 6.0 million Jews
-- 1.8 –1.9 million non-Jewish Poles
-- 200,000–800,000 Roma & Sinti (Gypsies)
-- 200,000–300,000 people with disabilities
-- 80,000–200,000 Freemasons
-- 100,000 communists
-- 10,000–25,000 homosexual men
-- 2,500–5,000 Jehovah's Witnesses

The total estimated human loss of life caused by World War II, irrespective of political alignment, was roughly 62 million people. The civilian toll was around 37 million, the military toll about 25 million.

Answer 2

I think that you are missing the point. It was not the case that Europe was treating the Jews in a fair and equitable manner until WW2 and then that there was this isolated instance where Hitler Killed 6 or 7 million people who were Jewish.

The Jewish people were killed and treated in a shameful manner by all of the countries in Europe and then Hitler was the final straw.

I don't know how many Chinese were killed by the Japanese but for the sake of argument I'll except the 20M figure. I know that Stalin is said to have killed 20M Russians during the Communist Revolution and also that when Kruschev was in charge of the Ukraine that He caused from 6 to 13 M Ukrainians to be killed.

It's not that Israel has propaganda, in fact they don't. The Muslim Arabs are the ones that have spread lie after lie about the situation in the Middle East.

The answer to your question is that the Japanese should be held account for their attacking China and their inhuman treatment of the Chinese while they were there. Stalin should be held up to the world as a mass murderer of the worst kind and Kruschev should be held to account also.

None of that, however, diminishes the terribleness of what Hitler did to the Jews. Also, none of it diminishes the fact that the Muslim Arab countries want to wipe the state of Israel of the map.

Answer 3

True, Chinese lives are not of less worth than that of Jews. But that doesn't mean that Jews make "propaganda" about the Holocaust. It rather means that the death of these Chinese is not remembered enough. The Chinese communist leader Mao was another mass murderer who is responsible for the death of millions of Chinese people but he is still honored in China because the Communist Party is still in power there and they make propaganda to portray him as a hero. But this is the wrong way. The way the Holocaust gets remembered should be an example for other crimes.

Answer 4

Well, Germany has apologized about a million times for Hitler, the remains of the camps are still there, and are visited by tourists. Japan has refused to apologize or even acknowledge the atrocities committed during the war.Tojo's grave is still considered a sacred shrine. A Chinese-American woman named Iris Chang wrote a book called The Rape of Nanking(I highly recommend it for historical reading), and as far as I know, it has yet to be published in Japan. I believe she said the Japanese government would be happy to have the book published, provided it was labeled a work of fiction. Chinese lives are certainly not less value than Jewish ones, it's just that Germany has bent over backwards to try to redeem herself for the Holocaust...Japan hasn't.

Answer 5

The truth is that the Nazi's were horrid murderers who are condemned not because of Jewish propoganda but for their acts.

In Asia, the Japanese are held in high contempt by China, Singapore, South Korea, Malaysia, Taiwan and the list goes on and on. For the japanese robbed all of these countries of their liberties, their happiness, their language and many times their very lives.

We in America and Europe have our slant on this and we hate Nazis more than Chinese for their WW2 cimes. It is the opposite in much of Asia. It is a racist bias supported by our education system and our cultural outlook, most Americans are quite ignorant on the scope of japanese atrocities in WW2.

Guess it boils down to whether you eat your Chinese food in San Francisco or Singapore....on who you hold in greater contempt.

Answer 6

One is considered an act of war. Whilst the Holocaust is a product of the Nazi's.
Stalin and Mao killed about 20 million of their own people. But the main difference was with the Nazi's it was Genocide: the systematic extermination of a society of people.

Answer 7

Japan is known as an aggressor, and not only for China, but also for Korea. Chinese lives are not worth less than Jewish lives, but don't try turning the holocaust into an exercise in propaganda. The Chinese I believe got to defend themselves, whereas the Jews were forced into ovens?

Answer 8

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Answer 9

The Japanese were condemned fairly extensively at the time and after the war for atrocities in China and elsewhere. Even now, official Japanese attitudes towards atrocities are internationally condemned.

Some 5,600 Japanese personnel were prosecuted in more than 2,200 trials in Tokyo and elsewhere in the period 1945-51. Of these more than 4,400 Japanese personnel were convicted and about 1,000 were sentenced to death.

So not ignored at all.

Answer 10

It`s the way that the Nazis went about their killing business which caused the outcry - the camps/ chambers/ experiments etc.Its not because the killed ones were of any specific nation.