The authentic Macedonians are Greek!
There are also Slav-Macedonians and Albanian-Macedonians form FYROM (Slavic/Albanian -Macedonia) but they are not Greeks!
The user Solun above has provided some completely wrong informartion!
The Ancient Greek kingdom of Macedon or Macedonia (Greek “Μακεδονία” from Greek word “Makos” attic “Mekos” meaning length!) was located in the north part of Greece!
All the evidences have proven that it was a typical Greek state.
First of all Macedonians were speaking a Greek dialect and it is very easily proved from archaeological evidence!
All the monuments and inscriptions found in the Macedonia are written in Greek language and in Greek only! All the inscriptions on coins and other artifacts are written in Greek. There are no ancient monuments with a different language. Furthermore there are a large number of discoveries in Asia in the route of Alexander the Great. All these monuments, discovered in Syria, Egypt, Pakistan, India and many more countries, prove that Alexander’s quest was Greek and that his goal was to spread the Greek civilization all over the world. (Not to mention that Alexander founded 70 Greek cities with most important the city of Alexandria! and he is responsible for the spreading of the Greek culture and language all the way to India!)
All the ancient Macedonian names mentioned in history or found on tombs are Greek. All the kings of Ancient Macedonia had Greek names. Let me give you a small list of the Greek names of the Macedonians
Alexandros(Alexander) , Phillipos (Philip), Ifestion, Antipatros, Antiochos Lyssimachos , Ptolemeos, Antigonos ,Seleukos, Parmenion, Perdicas Hermias Anaksarxos, Marsias, Zoilos, Deinokratis, Aristoboulos ,Aristokritos, Thessalos ,Argeos, Pausanias, Eumenes , Kassandros , , Admetos, Krateros, Arrianos, Philotas, Cleitos, Neoptolemos Python, Hippostratos, Attalos, Kleitarxos, Polyperchon, Aristandros, Polycratis, Bolon, Koinos, Iolaos, Xenokratis ,Deukalos, Arrhideos ,Charidimos ,
Kalas, Perseas, Meleagros, Arpalos, and hundred more names found written on their tombs!!!
The names of their cities and the names of all the regions of Ancient Macedonia are Greek. Such as the capital Thessalonici, the ancient capital of Pella and Aigai and Anthemous, Almopia, Amphaxitis, Bisaltia, Botiaia, Chakildiki, Edonis, Elimeia, Eordaia, Krestonia, Lynkests, Mygdonia, Odomantis, Orestis, Paionia, Pelagonia, Pieria, Sintiki, Thassos, Tymphaea, and more!
Just to demonstrate the ignorance of some users lets see some information about Thessalonici The city was founded circa 315 BC by Cassander, ( A king with a Greek name!) the King of Macedon (Μακεδών), on or near the site of the ancient town of Therma (another Greek name) and twenty six other local villages. He named it after his wife Thessalonica (yet another Greek name!), the sister of Alexander the Great (another famous Greek). She gained her name from her father, Philip II of Macedon (yet another king with a Greek name! Whats wrong with those ancient Macedonians? Are they Greek lovers?), to commemorate her birth on the day of his gaining a victory (Gr. Nike) over the Phocians, who were defeated with the help of Thessalian horsemen, the best in Greece at that time. Thessalonki means the "victory of Thessalians"
(All the names that are now in use in authentic Macedonia of Greece are the authentic Greek names used by the ancient Macedonians!)
And of course there aren’t any Slav-Macedonians in Greece. There are only 25 members of a political party that claim that they are of Slav origin. They did participate in the election under a broad coalition with an extreme left party and few gay/lesbian activist groups. In a total population of 2500000 authentic Macedonians they received less than 3000 votes (0.01%)! (Remember the votes are for the coalition of parties)
And my favorite quote:
Here is what the first President of FYROM (Slav/Albanian- Macedonia), Kiro Gligorov said: "We are Macedonians but we are Slav Macedonians. That's who we are! We have no connection to Alexander the Greek and his Macedonia… Our ancestors came here in the 5th and 6th century" (Toronto Star, March 15, 1992).
Plenty more quotes if you want more information!
2006-12-29 10:55:38
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answered by ragzeus 6
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ANCIENT MACEDONIANS:
"The Ancient Macedonians were the inhabitants of Macedon in ancient times. Historians generally agree that the ancient Macedonians—whether they originally spoke a Greek dialect or a distinct language—were absorbed into the Koine Greek-speaking population in Hellenistic times. Whether the ancient Macedonians were an ethnically Greek people themselves continues to be debated by historians, linguists, and lay people. However, the Macedonian Royal family known as the Argead dynasty claimed Greek descent."
MACEDONIANS (Македонци)
"Total population 1.7 million - 2 million (est)
• South Slavs
• South-Eastern Slavs
• Macedonians
• Bulgarians
The Macedonians[1] (Македонци, Makedonci) - also referred to as Macedonian Slavs [2] - are a South Slavic ethnic group who are primarily associated with the Republic of Macedonia. They speak the Macedonian language, a South Slavic language. The overwhelming majority of ethnic Macedonians live in the Republic of Macedonia, although there are also minority communities in neighboring Serbia, Greece, Albania and Bulgaria, as well as in diaspora communities in a number of other countries."
SEE ALSO: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Macedonians_%28Greek%29
2006-12-29 00:06:24
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answered by Anonymous
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100% Greeks . Eleni gives THE explanation. Of course in the area of FYROM there are some people that have Greek origin and they speak a language similat to Greek. It is not correct for the leaders of FYROM to try convince their people to believe that Macedonians are a nation. The inhabitants of Greek Macedonia feel 100% Greeks like all the other inhabitants of the rest of Greece. The reading of the history gives all the answers very clearly. The funny thing is that many "Madedonians" from Canada or USA thing they speak "Madedonians" but they speak Greek
2006-12-29 08:03:35
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answered by Tolis 2
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The Macedonians in Greek (real) Macedonia are Greeks.
There are as said above also Slav and Albanian- Macedonians. Those are not of Greek descents.
2006-12-30 05:19:46
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answered by Anonymous
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MACEDONIANS ARE GREEKS INDEED!
@Solun,darling ,believe me, the greek government does nothing about the "skopia subject" as we call it.All the greeks can not understand why the greeks governments of the last 30 years do nothing about it.
If our country was a little bit more organised,you maybe wanted to take territories from Bulgaria,Albania or wherever else but not from Greece because the truth is very clear and you would never think as you think now.
The only reason that you say what you say ,is because our governments are useless.
For your own good,try to open your eyes and your mind.I am sincirely talking you as a friend.It is really bad to find out that you believe in something that does not exist.
2006-12-29 04:31:46
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answered by andelska 3
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Well ,let me explain you the confusion that has been created.
Makedonia is the north part of ancient and new Greece.
Thessaloniki is the capital of Makedonia which is the co-capital of Greece.
In the 70's when Yugoslavia was a communist country,Tito the president of that country had a small problem.His country was a union of different slavic countries as Serbia,Croatia,Bosnia etc.The differences were huge.If you visit those countries you will understand what I mean.Different religions,different way of life and a huge difference of the rich croatians and the poor skopians in the south,for example.
He understood that they were going to be seperated one day.In the location of Skopia(the capital of FYROM) the population were coming from Albania but mostly from Bulgaria(and few Greeks in Monastiri that they now call it Bitola).
Their language is a bulgarian dialect.He had problems with Bulgaria already.So,he thought something clever but bad for the others.He named the location Makedonia,as it is called the location of Greece which is bordered with Skopia and he began a propaganda all over the world that Alexander the Great is the ancestor of the people who live in Skopia.
That is something really funny because Alexander the Great or the word Macedonia are greek,they mean something in Greek language and have nothing to do with slavic or bulgarian.Of course the citizens there want to forget their bulgarian-albanian identity.
The reason that Yugoslavians did that was financial ,of course as everything.They wanted to have an access in the Aegean Sea.This is crazy as you can understand because
that means that they want to take territories from Greece.The reason that this is never going to happen is very simple:the citizens of the real Makedonia in Greece are Greeks of course,so what can it happen?
From the other side,big countries help Fyrom.USA sends all their nuclear garbage that they have in Skopia.That is terrible for the human health.They don't keep it in USA but they send it to the tiny country,that noone cares about it and it's ok ,we can say to them that we support them.Who cares where the real Makedonia is!
So,for answering to your question,Macedonians or Makedones are Greeks and only Greeks,they live to Thessaloniki , Florina , Kavala, Edessa , Veroia , Drama and all the rest town of the only one Makedonia.
2006-12-29 04:26:13
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answered by Eleni H 2
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Who said that? Offcourse we were and are greeks.I am macedonian i am greek.You see the ancient macedonians spoke a greek dialect.If these dogs from FYR think that they are macedonians then why do they speak slavic?
There's something from wikipedia:
'Over 6000 inscriptions have been found in Macedonia(N.Greece) until now. All of them are in Greek' (and i say not in slavic)(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ancient_Macedonians)
Except the language, Alexander himself said that he was greek.
We do not need to prove anything.History does it.
2006-12-29 02:16:47
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answered by Μακεδών 2
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Macedonians are Greek.Alexander was student of ARISTOTLE'S
Epistles of saint PAUL were sent to THESSALONIANS. in GREEKThe Greek language was transferred allover the word by MACEDONIANS Their names were like Perdikas,Ptopemeus,Filippos,
Amyntas.Olympias was the mother of Alexander.Do they look like slavic,Titoic names or like authentic Greek ones?
2006-12-31 07:03:29
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answered by qwine2000 5
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Macedonians ARE greek....but see...there is a new nation called ''fyrom''..they call themselves macedonians but they are not...the real macedonians live in macedonia...above attiki (where athens is)....The ones from fyrom dont even speak greek...besides ''macedonia'' is a greek word...
2006-12-31 07:33:53
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answered by ursula!!! 3
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WOW!! There is alot of haters above me that are simply brainwashed from there Greek government!!! You guys need to read this book!!! http://florina.org/html/books/mixed_people/mixed_nation.html This book is written in Greek so younger people like yourselves can read it because that is what you were only taught in the now greek part of MACEDONIA that was divided after the Balkan wars in 1913. As for the question MACEDONIANS aren't and will never be Greek!!! MACEDONIANS have their own language!! MACEDONIA was divided Greece,Albania, Bulgaria and todays country MACEDONIA when under Yugoslavia!! In all these countries these parts were called MACEDONIA and are allowed to speak the MACEDONIAN language except in the Greek part!!! The MACEDONIANS in the todays Greek part were stripped of their human rights and were forced to change their names and speak only the Greek language!! They changed names of Cities,Villages,Lakes and rivers!!! Churches were destoryed in this part to wipe out anything and everything to do with the MACEDONIAN nation!! Greece closed its borders to the north for many many years!! People that had left there homes and families to purse a different lifestyle in a different country were not allowed to even go back to see their homes and families that they had left!!! Their was a time if you told a Greek that you were from MACEDONIA they would say that there is no such a thing as MACEDONIA!! But in 1988 they named Nothern Greece MACEDONIA and put up signs everywhere saying welcome to MACEDONIA!! Now after that they claim that yes there is a MACEDONIA but it is in Greece but there isn't any people that speak the MACEDONIAN language here!! That is very strange because I am a MACEDONIAN and I am from Solun todays (Thessloniki) and I can speak both languages because I learn't the MACEDONIAN langauge from my grandfather which was part of what went on when MACEDONIA was divided!!! It sad to see that there is still people that believe that MACEDONIA was always Greek!! Because I also know alot of people that are from this area and today speak the MACEDONIAN language and know the truth behind MACEDONIA!! But you can't help what people say and continue to say that MACEDONIA is Greek because they were forced this way and thats that!! MACEDONIANS are MACEDONIANS!!! and MACEDONIA was a empire and don't confuse it with the Greeks!!! And whoever wants not to believe that, you need to buy the book I said above!!! Here are somemore sources!!! MACEDONIA for the MACEDONIANS!!!!
2006-12-29 09:12:15
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answered by SOLUN macedonia 3
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