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Is it still the same boat? Why or why not?

I have my own opinions on this, but I love this question as a way to see how people percieve things. Let me know what you think, and most importantly, why.

2006-12-28 05:23:57 · 12 answers · asked by arch_uriel 2 in Arts & Humanities Philosophy

While it is true that there is no one answer to this question, it is a fun excersize in metaphysics.

This, for me, is a great way to see how people percieve things, and leads great into talking about humans who's cells by the time they are 40 are not the same cells as they had when they were say 7 but they still insist they are the same person... But that's another whole kit and caboodle...

2006-12-28 06:02:09 · update #1

You are right, the word same does create the connundrum for this question, and that's exactly why I think it is an important exercise. An individual's definition of the same is going to produce the answer to this question for them.

2006-12-28 06:47:03 · update #2

FYI, this isn't an exercise in cost analysis or praticallity (which we can all agree this situation is a failure in both areas), more like metaphysical definitions and word play...

2006-12-28 07:12:17 · update #3

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This question has a more mundane version. In the classic war bird community, everyone oogles those rare WWII birds. Still, many of the airplanes have been salvaged from absolute wrecks. Many have had major re-builds to the point many enthusiasts ask the very question you pose with the boat. The question raised, if answered in the negative, then, de-values the aircraft because it begins to lack what collector's call 'provenance,' a historical record of the aircraft. So, will your boat also be devalued to the point where it ceases to exist as the boat it was when first built? Only if fond memories are your judge. Really, it is the value we place on the original boat....value beyond it's simple utility. But if all you need is a boat, then any boat will do, even one that has been systematically replaced over time. Sorry, but it is all in our perception. You will not find your answer, grasshopper, in your boat, but only within yourself. And the answer could be different for the next person. There is no defintive answer.

2006-12-28 05:41:51 · answer #1 · answered by Anonymous · 2 0

As soon as the first part was replaced it became a different boat. They only way something can be the same is if it goes unchanged.
Whether by replacing one or all parts of the boat you have changed it, therefore it may appear to be the same, but it is by the sum of its parts, different.

2007-01-02 03:59:07 · answer #2 · answered by DishclothDiaries 7 · 0 0

I'll go linguistic, and pounce on the word "same" in your question.

Stand back and consider the boat as an object in time as well as space. Though it gradually changes there was only ever "one boat" (probably but not necessarily with the one name).

If you define "same" too strictly it won't be the same boat as soon as the UV starts to fade the paint. "It's not the same as when it was new."

The two end points (the "new" boat and the "replaced" boat) are connected, but the word forces concepts that "ain't necessarily so."

Words are necessary, but tricky.

2006-12-28 06:38:40 · answer #3 · answered by Pedestal 42 7 · 2 0

It's a new boat. If there is absolutely nothing of the original boat remaining in the end, then you've created something new. So it's not the same boat at all.

2006-12-28 05:33:02 · answer #4 · answered by Kelly 2 · 0 0

I'd say it is, because at all times, it is the same boat with replacements, and the reference to the entity of the boat remains in tact throughout.

Now it'd be different if you replaced everything all at the same time, but now in that instance, I don't see why you'd buy the original boat in the first place!!! LOL.

2006-12-28 05:29:29 · answer #5 · answered by elysialaw 6 · 0 0

No. Every part is different. They just made contact with parts of the old boat. I'm sure you'd have used a lot more money than just buying a new boat, though.

2006-12-28 07:03:10 · answer #6 · answered by shmux 6 · 0 0

Lets say I'm going to buy a "used" boat called Mary Lou. The first day i go to see it i don't buy it, But the second day i go to see it i do buy it, Is it still the same boat, Yes i think it is

2006-12-28 06:11:37 · answer #7 · answered by Anonymous · 0 1

You have the same TYPE of boat, but not the same boat.

But then, I don't think I'm the same person as I was when I was seven either. However, at the DNA level, I'm the same TYPE of person.

2006-12-28 06:22:33 · answer #8 · answered by freebird 6 · 4 0

Are you changing the boat? Or are you changing yourself through the boat? It's like those 50 year old millionares who don't marry but only date 20 year old blonds for a few months at a time.

2006-12-28 06:52:07 · answer #9 · answered by no name brand canned beans 6 · 0 3

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2016-04-02 21:06:56 · answer #10 · answered by ? 3 · 0 0

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