Do you agree with Rummy's statement on Bush's place in History?

Question

Rummy, in the West Wing said that history will remember this president as having done the right thing in Iraq. By implication saying that he, Rumsfeld, did the right things too.

I say, blow history, we can see today that they are a bunch of oil seeking criminals.

Answer 1

First, I would like to say I am a Republican who is totally disgusted with the vast majority of users on this forum who call themselves Republicans.
Here are my observations and opinions about them;
1: They would rather put their own self interests in this president, ahead of the interests of this Nation.
2: They would rather clone, reticule, and demean those who would try to bring serious discussion to this forum, than debate them on their own merits.
3: They also seek to report in an attempt to undermine those stated in #2 in an effort to have those facts removed.
4: and final, history will remember those who stood by while this Nation was robbed, lied to, and stolen from and those that defended those very practices

Answer 2

Well to give you the answer you did not want...time will only tell how history will view President Bush...case in point...Lincoln was a very disliked President and at the time was seen as a divider and in most cases a country bumpkin idiot...(remember he was against Radical Reconstruction after the Civil War, and when he was assassinated the Radical Republicans got to have their way with the South.) But now Lincoln is regarded by some to be the best President we ever had...but he was responsible for starting a Illegal War (By the Constitution the South had every right to break away from a overbearing Federal Government. In the beginning the Founding Fathers wanted to have strong state governments and a weaker Federal Government, but the Feds wanted more power...) which killed hundreds of thousands of Americans, to include women and children...not to mention all the burning, stealing, rapping, and murders the Union Army committed against the Southern civilians...remember Sherman said, "...War is Hell!" "It is hard to fight a war when you are woried about your family back at home..." So as you can see you have to see the final outcome, which will not be anytime soon...if the war in Iraq brings peace to the Middle East and the down fall of Terrorism, then he will be seen as a great President...if not he may be seen like Johnson or Grant....I know this was not the answer you were looking for, but in this time we can not make that call, no matter how much you want to...

How do you think history will view your boy Clinton's Presidency?

Answer 3

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Answer 4

I don't know why you and all those other Liberals are always talking about oil. We haven't touched any of their oil. We're actually trying to figure out what groups of Iraqis are going to have what parts of the oil industry over there. We have nothing to do with any share of it. I think Bush will go down in history as a president who actually had the nerve to do something he felt was right, regrdless of the criticism he's taken along the way. It takes more of a man to stand against the criticism. Libs are also trying to compare this war with Vietnam. How is it like Vietnam? When we left Vietnam, it was over. If we leave Iraq right now, it won't be over, they will follow us here. Is that really what everyone wants? 20 to 30 years from now, I really feel that people will look back at this and realize that this was the right move for this country and in the long run will make it safer for our children and grandchildren. I'm not for war, but I am for finishing what we started. I am not for losing to a 3rd world country. Libs always talk about the soldiers not wanting to be there. Well I have a news flash, I have 2 uncles who are serving in Iraq right now, I have a cousin over there and my girlfriends brother is there as well. They are all marines. They all have families of their own. And they all want to finish the job. Mainly because they all have friends and comrades that have died and they don't want them to have died for nothing. I've heard stories from them about what is actually happening over there. The media isn't doing a good enough job broadcasting the accomplishments, all they talk about is the bombing of the day in Baghdad. There's more to Iraq than just Baghdad. People need to stop listening to stories from the media and hear stories from the soldiers that have actually lived the experience.

Answer 5

Well, let me break out my crystal ball to see what Iraq looks like in another 20 years.
I think it's sad how many people of the west actually want the whole thing to fail.
Besides, the first "oil-seeking" criminals were France, germany, Russia, and Kofi Annan's SON , apparently....Hans Blix had no intention of finding WMD even if they were there, since he was there to illegitimalize an attack on Saddam in the first place on behalf of all the previously mentioned offenders.
But I guess some in the world would have prefered THAT criminal activity to seeing Halliburton get the contracts...who had a more legitimate right after the invasion than our European leftist friends had in the first place.
And, YEAH...I know that's not the answer you wanted.

Answer 6

How anyone can defend an administration that caused 3,000 deaths of our troops and 20,000 seriously wounded because of an ill thought out war costing over 350 billion. At the same time allowing 11 million illegals to walk around in this country and saying we have home land security a the cost of millions. Cost of living expenses are so high and rising that the middle class is rapidly becoming bankrupt. While congress passes bills to put more than a billion into the hands of insurance and drug companies. Has there ever been an administration that has caused more hate, not only in their own party , but around the world?

Answer 7

The oil canard makes no sense! If they just wanted oil, all they had to do was lift the sanctions against Saddam, or sneak around them like France and Russia did. They could get it for a cut rate, too, since we had the leverage with the sanctions, threat of force, etc. to "extort" him.

Starting a war and then not even asking the Iraqis to pay us back out of oil revenues is not a scheme motivated by greed. C'mon, people, use your brains!!!

I think the Iraq war was the right thing, although how it is fought needs to be improved.

Answer 8

I seriously doubt he is right, but the truth is no one can know this early on for sure.

I can't comprehend any way in which this will turn out to favor Bush in a historical sense unless they miraculously uncover a huge hidden bunker full of nuclear ICBMs under Bagdad that they somehow missed the 100,000 other times they searched for WMD.

Or did we forget that's why we invaded Iraq already? Oh yeah. No WMD. Uh...never mind. Now it's a war for the liberation of Iraq and to establish a Democracy there.

Oh wait....what? the whole country is killing each other and burning to the ground? Oh um... nevermind that Democracy thing and the WMD thing, uh lets see our mission is...uh...um... Get out some how and declare victory regardless of what happens and blame the liberals for not "supporting our troops"

Answer 9

The ONLY POSSIBLE WAY that Bush will ever be credited for doing the right thing by this country, PERIOD, will be if there is some hidden truth to the long-term threat of the middle east to world peace. And fortunately for us, the chances of that ever being known is non-existent. And that can be credited to BushCo, Inc.

So, the Bush Administration might have done the entire planet a favor by killing a million Middle Easterner's? We'll never know.

Based on PHYSICAL EVIDENCE though, George W Bush, his entire family, his entire administration and all those who have supported him in this government, all of them, are traitors. That is just based on the available, physical evidence. There could be physical evidence that we are NOT privy to that would prove those mentioned are truly acting in our favor, but we'll never know.

Therefore, Bush goes down in history as a traitor. That's my opinion.

Answer 10

Where is the oil profit people ask you. Do they think the profit is going to go to them? We guard the oil in Iraq, and yet 500,000 barrels "mysteriously disappear" every day. Who is putting that $30+ million/day into their pockets?

Answer 11

Bush has a place in history alright, just not as glowing as Rumsfeld may see it.