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a) Write an expression for the slope of the curve at any point (x,y)
b) find the equation of the tangent lines to the curve at the point x=2
c) find the second derivative at (0,4)

thanks!!!

2006-12-27 05:27:41 · 4 answers · asked by dell10314 1 in Science & Mathematics Mathematics

4 answers

1) You'd need to differentiate it explicitly:

d/dx (x² - 2xy + 4y²) = d/dx(64)
2x - 2(xy' + y) + 8yy' = 0
2x - 2xy' - 2y + 8yy' = 0
x - xy' - y + 4yy' = 0
y'(4y - x) = y - x
y' = (y - x)/(4y - x)

2) At x=2:

(2)² - 2(2)y + 4y² = 64
4 - 4y + 4y² = 64
y² - y - 15 = 0
y = (1 ± √61)/2

Messy...then you'd have to plug each of those y values into the derivative function above to get the slopes, then use the point-slope equation to get lines... Really messy... unless I miessed up somewhere...

3) Differentiate the first derivative:

d²y/dx² = d²/dx² (y - x)/(4y - x)
= [(4y - x)(y' - 1) - (y - x)(4y' - 1)]/(4y - x)²

And y'(0) = (4 - 0)/(16 - 0) = 1/4

Plugging in (0,4):

=[(16 - 0)(1/4 - 1) - (4 - 0)(1 - 1)]/(16 - 0)²
= -12/256
= -3/64

Since a_math_guy and I now agree, I think this is right. Really messy though....

2006-12-27 05:46:10 · answer #1 · answered by Jim Burnell 6 · 0 1

a) (x-y)/(x-4y)
b) (-3/244*61^(1/2)+ 1/4)*x+32/61* 61^(1/2) and (3/244*61^(1/2)+ 1/4)*x-32/61* 61^(1/2)
c) -3/64

Jim forgot to d/dx x in part of the quotient rule and shasjing didnt use the product rule at a key point for his 2nd derivative. This could be an important lesson about using technology. Could be..... I think Michael is on track tho' hahahaha


WORK:

> fprime:=implicitdiff(x^2-2*x*y +4*y^2=64,y,x);
x - y
fprime := -------
x - 4 y
> solve(subs(x=2,x^2-2*x*y +4*y^2=64),y);
1/2 1/2
1/2 + 1/2 61 , 1/2 - 1/2 61
> collect(solve(y-(1/2+ 1/2*61^(1/2))=subs(x=2,y=1/2+ 1/2*61^(1/2),fprime) *(x-2),y),x);
> collect(solve(y-(1/2- 1/2*61^(1/2))=subs(x=2, y=1/2-1/2*61^(1/2),fprime)* (x-2),y),x);
1/2 32 1/2
(- 3/244 61 + 1/4) x + -- 61
61
1/2 32 1/2
(3/244 61 + 1/4) x - -- 61
61
> implicitdiff(x^2-2*x*y+ 4*y^2=64,y,x$2);
2 2
x - 2 x y + 4 y
3 ------------------------------
3 2 2 3
x - 12 x y + 48 x y - 64 y
> subs(x=0,y=4,3* (x^2-2*x*y+4*y^2)/ (x^3-12*x^2*y+48*x*y^2- 64*y^3));
-3
--
64

2006-12-27 14:08:39 · answer #2 · answered by a_math_guy 5 · 0 1

a) Take derivative,
2x - 2y - 2xy' + 8yy'= 0......(1)
y' = (x-y)/(x-4y)......(2)

b) Plugging x=2 into the original equation gives, y= (1±√61)/2
Therefore, you have two tangent lines. Can you finish this part now?

c) y'(0) = 1/4
Take derivative of (1),
2-2y'-2y'-2xy''+8y'^2+8yy'' = 0
Plugging in x, y and y' at (0,4) gives, y'' = -3/64

2006-12-27 13:47:40 · answer #3 · answered by sahsjing 7 · 0 2

I considered it. And I don't like it. Besides, Algebra was a long time ago.

2006-12-27 13:31:40 · answer #4 · answered by ? 5 · 0 2

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