Does the existence of physical laws that govern the world prove the existence of a creator?

Question

Humans observe their surroundings and make conclusions about physical laws.

As such, without the laws of physics we cannot make distinct generalizations and would have to constantly renew our data because of the non stability of things.

Does the existence of a stable framework, that governs all living things, i.e. a set of laws for existence, prove the existence of an awareness that has created the laws in the first place?

by 'prove' I mean making a logical deduction.

example of an unchanging law: men cannot give birth to babies.

Ill repeat myself: MEN CANNOT HAVE BABIES!

does this qualify for an unchanging law yet?

I rather thing the whole time and space continuum thing was made so we dont lose our minds when we realize were created in a few seconds

Answer 1

The size of the universe alone is truly awesome (galaxies, clusters of galaxies, clusters arranged in "superclusters" of colossal proportions.

Looking into infinitesimal things--atoms--we see that the same precision exists. An atom is a marvel oforder, like a mininature solar system. It includes a nucleus containing particles called protons and neutrons, surrounded by tiny orbiting electrons. All matter is made up of these building blocks. What makes one substance differ from the other is the number of protons and neutrons in the nucleus and the number and arrangement of the electrons revolving around it. This has an exquisite order, since all the elements that make up matter can be arranged in exact sequence by the number of those building blocks present.

From the infinitely large to the infinitesimally small, from galactic clusters to atoms, the universe is characterized by superb organization. DISCOVER magazine stated: We perceived the order in surprise, and our cosmologists and physicists continue to find new and astonishing aspects of the order....We used to say it was a miracle, and we still permit outselves to refer to the whole universe as a marvel." This orderly structure is acknowledged even in the word commonly used in astronomy to describe the universe---"cosmos." It is defined in one dictionary as "an orderly harmonious systematic universe."

Former astronaut John Glenn noted "the orderliness of the whole universe about us," and that the galaxies were "all traveling in prescribed orbits in relation to one another." He therefore asked: "Could this have just happened? Was it an accident that a bunch of flotsam and jetsam suddenly started making these orbits of its own accord?" He concluded: "I can't believe that. . . Some Power put all this into orbit and keeps it there." Reader's Digest, July 1962, page 38

Indeed, the universe is so precisely organized that man can use the heavenly bodies as the basis for his timekeeping. But any well-designed timepiece obviously is the product of an orderly mind that has the ability to design. An orderly mind that designs can be possessed only by an intgelligent person. Then what about the far more complex design and dependability that exists throughout the universe? Would this not also betoken a designer, a maker, a mind---intelligence? And do you have any reason to believe that intelligence can exist apart from personality?

We cannot get around it: Superb organization requires a suberb organizer. Nothing in our experience indicates that anything organized happens by chance, by accident. Rather, our entire
experience in life shows that everything organized must have an organizer. Every machine, computer, building, yes, even pencil and paper, had a maker, an organizer. Logically, the far more complex and awesome organization in the universe must have had an organizer too.

The entire universe, from atoms to galaxies, is governed by definite physical laws. There are laws for governing heat, light, sound and gravity, for example. As physicist Stephen W. Hawking said: "The more we examine the universe, we find it is not arbitrary at all but obeys certain well -defined laws that operate in different areas. It seems very reasonable to suppose that there may be some unifying principles, so that all laws are part of some bigger law."

Rocket expert Wernher von Braun went a step further when he stated: "The natural laws of the universe are so precise that we have no difficulty building a spaceship to fly to the moon and can time the flight with the precision of a fraction of a second. These laws must have been set by somebody." Scientists who want a rocket to orbit the earth, or the moon, must work in harmony with such universal laws if they are to be successful.

When we think of laws, we acknowledge that they came from a lawmaking entity. A traffic sign that says "Stop" certainly has behind it some person or group of persons who originated that law. What, then about the comprehensive laws that govern the material universe? Such brilliantly conceived laws surely bear witness to a supremely intelligent lawmaker.

After commenting on all the special conditions of order and law that are so apparent in the universe, Science News observed: "Contemplation of these things disturbs cosmologists because it seem as if such particular and precise conditions could hardly have arisen at random. One way to deal with the question is to say the whole thing was contrived and lay it on Divine Providence."

Many persons, including many scientists, are not willing to concede that. But others are willing to acknowledge what the evidence keeps insisting---intelligence. They acknowledge that such colossal size, precision and law as exist throughout the universe could never have happened just by accident. All these things must be the products of a superior mind.

Answer 2

The answers here are so thorough that there's not much left to say :D

we can look at this question another way:
could a universe, or even a multiverse, each with its own set of physical laws, have resulted from a group of atoms that came together randomly and that then suddenly on its own started to follow very specific sets of physical laws, creating, by complete coincidence, a vast, continuous and complex life cycle that is the same from the smallest particle, to the multicelled organism, to the largest galaxy?
what is it that made these random creations (or elements or atoms), entirely of their own accord, each and every single one of the billions and trillions that exist in the entire universe, follow the same set of rules for the billions of years of their existence?
If energy fluctuates and laws change, as some might say, how come the pattern of existence has been the same all this time?

What may look like chaos is anything but. If we look closely we'll see that chaos is very well designed, or to use another word, highly patterned.
What we think are changes in scientific laws are probably a change in our perception of nature and the cosmos. We may discover new phenomena all the time, but they were always there. So, even quantum entanglements, multiverses, and energy fluctuations follow a specific set of physical laws and have been doing so since Time began. It is not the fact that things, such as energy, change that proves there are no laws. It is very clear that there is a limit on what it can change into, so laws are present that govern the behavior of all things.
How that energy came about in the first place is another question entirely :)

Answer 3

Yes in a way, but you will not ever get a factual answer to this question. You must answer it yourself. This is all a matter of interpretation, regardless of the physics. There is no way, it is a matter of faith, and metaphysics, and numerology, astronomy, and chemistry etc., What ever makes you think we have a stability in science anywhere. All could change instintaneously, formulas change through space and time. And the universe has no on and off switch. The clock there is infinity, we are the only ones that need numbers, the big hand, the little hand, and the second hand and the 12 numbers. Otherwise we would be doomed. Someone and something as a metaphysical tool gave us that timing in the first place and there is no tangible resource to prove that except just look at the Universe? Did man create that, I mean mankind are such ego maniacs I would not be surprised, if they try and take credit for its creation, just like the clock? But where did man get the idea for the numbers, and when someone asks you, "Well it only stands to reason that man would start to count with numbers", (and use that old evolution nonsense), Just laugh because that is ridiculous that man created anything but more babies.

Answer 4

I would have to say No. Your attempt to prove or disprove the Creator is based on too small a qualifier. The simple statement that "The universe exist in an organized state and there for some thing or one must be exerting intelligent control to keep it this way" in no way classifies the origin, purposes or identity of a single organizing entity. By your simple frame work any number of plausible theories could be put forward.
Man conserved the laws of physics many years after the berth of religion. To me this means that even before we had taken the time to see how our physical world worked we had already begun to explore a more spiritual rout. It was these learned followers of a higher knowledge that would later bring us the science that we know today.
It is in fact the chaos of life that reveals the hand of god for in man's darkest hours we have not only survived but thrived.
If anything the existence of God proves that our perceived physical laws are only illusions that are subject to change.
In my opinion the only proof we need of a higher mind is the fact that we can look at the chaos around use and find order.

Answer 5

what laws would be required for a being that can create a universe to exist? i would guess they would be far more complex and unlikely than the ones that govern this universe, and who made those laws? the simplest answer is that physical laws exist because of chance. can we presumptuous enough to think that our universe is the only one that exists or ever existed. there may be and have been a countless number of universes. i believe that quantum theory, the most successful theory ever discovered by humanity, calls for a multiplicity of universes. some of these universes will not support life, or life as we know it. some will not even support stars and galaxies, or even the elemental particles that build our universe. in this case an endless number of universes have and do exist, and going on the 'Goldilocks principle' some will be just right. if this universe was not just right we would not be here to contemplate its existence. the trouble is that to understand this fully you have too battle through a complex forest of mathematics to get to the underlying simplicity, that is why so many people plump for the easy option of a creator to explain it all, even though the existence of a creator requires even more complexity. most physical laws are not laws as such but mathematical definitions of force.

Answer 6

Even in the accepted Laws of Physics there is always uncertainty, and there is no such thing as a stable framework because the accepted scientific laws always change with the introduction of new data (remeber that scientists before 1200AD belived the universe revolved around the earth and created laws based on that). That is why Laws are based on reprodution of set variables and do not apply to everything. There in no conclusive Law that governs all part of physics. Scientist still have no clue what exactly goes on inside the human brain. In space, many of the Laws of Physics have to modified in order to work properly. And with the introduction of String Theory, there is even more doubt as to what is controling the physical forces. But it is the inclusion of doubt in a system that has been proven true for earth is what allows me to believe that there is some other force out there other than what we know. And I use the term "other force" loosly; it could some divine power, or some exponentially huge creature playing with us in his petry dish, or a new type of physics. As for the the evolution of humans, if thats even how we came about, there is very little evidence to say that males didnt bear children at some point, (scientist still have very little idea what function an apendix serves in the human body). Besides, look at certain types of fish: the males in a population can change gender to female in order to bear young and propagate the species, whos to say that mamals have never done that in all the history of the world?

Answer 7

If you look at the laws of nature,logic says,they are not the result of a creator.
DNA, would this be necessary for the existence of animals.
Why invent such a complicated process when all you have to do is say "let there be animals"!
Why gravity or time?
Why ice and water?
You fashion a man,take a rib and fashion a woman,so he wont be lonely.
You give them a garden of eden,saying this is all yours,every thing you need.
Then you put these two twenty year olds,with no clothes,in this paradise and say don't fool around or else,then you leave.
The out come is inevitable!
What fools these creators be!

Answer 8

Yes, it proves the existence of a creator, but not necessarily not The Creator, maybe a very developped intelligent specie created those physical laws.

Answer 9

Man has a spirit which puts him way beyond the animals even if there is only little difference in the DNA structure. This spirit enables man to see real nature and the laws of it. It takes specially gifted women and men to interpret these laws and expand our knowledge of them. But the end result will be that man will be as the Creator however you see him. That is the destiny of man. It's man's reason for existence. There is no room for metaphysics and stuff like that. Reality is objective and can be proven by repeated demonstrations. No room for Hocus Pocus.

Answer 10

I think it does, only because there are instances in space were we don't know what is going on like black holes, yet they are constant and somewhat predictable. The notion of chaos and confusion has always come from a lack of knowledge and understanding.

I have to believe that a Divine Intelligence that knows all is in the direct possession of all laws and governing aspects of everything. In this case he then had the ability to manipulate it and have the laws serve His purpose.

With out hope and belief in a higher intelligence than our own depression, fear and uncertainty loom far to near to be able to have a happy and productive life her.