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A simple authorization to use "all possible means" doesn't count.

2006-12-26 07:26:55 · 10 answers · asked by apalfi2 1 in Politics & Government Government

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Now we get to the nitty gritty and the reason we will never see an impeachment of Bush, Congress itself is just as guilty for giving away iots powers to the executive branch in direct contradiction to Its Constitutioal Directive. Congress cannot delegate away its powers to declare War.
Words mean something and the Bushy trick of using sematics and enthymematic arguments to try and fool its peoples is wrong and dishonorable if not outright crooked.
It is more than that it is treasonous!
"There can hardly be room for doubt that the framers of the constitution, when they vested in Congress the power to declare war, never imafagined that they were leqving it to the executive to use military and naval forces of the United Statesall over the world for the purpose of actually coercing other nations, occupying their territory, and killing their soldeirs and civilians, all according to his own notions of the fitness of things, as long as he refrained from calling his action war or persisted in calling it peace....#!
Reqad the sttements of the ratifying members in this regard, they tell the true meaning of thier limitations on executive branch power. Not the words of some toady from Texas, An oil executive or whimp from Conneticut playing at being a Terxas cowboy.
Read Why Jusitce John Marshall ghave the powers over Commerce to Congress,The Constittuion supposes what the Histopry of all govts demonstrates: that the EX. is the branch of power most interested in war& most prone to it, It has accordingly with studied care vested the question of war in the legal. On Commerce GibonsVOgden "it may be and often is used as an instrument of war. That isanother reason for Congressional limitations on exec top make war.
So many more and so much more lend the lies of present Executive branch and its supporters into the "High Crimes catagory of impeachment. Madison-Gery further funneld the power of exec to decalre war.
Article 1 of constitution givbes to congress the power to rovide for calling forth the militia to execute the Laws of Union, Supress Insurections and repel invasion.
teh language of the Constittuion reads, The President shall be commander in chief of the Army and the Navy of the United States and of the militia of the several states, "When called inot the actual service of the United States. Congress not the President does the calling.
Sorry if long windd but this is so important for a free people to understand . Knowing the History and the people who made it is so impportant to keeping our freedom from an all powerfull grab by the Executive Branch for powers way bewyond what any free man woman or child can endure and still be called FREE!

Yes it was the WWII last used.


Read the Commander in chief portion well, for without a Declaraton of War there is no Commander in Chief powers in the Executive Branch!

2006-12-28 17:52:46 · answer #1 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

How do you define "declare war," if the authorization to use "all possible means" doesn't count?
The Constitution gives no specific procedure for declaring war, and no bill doing so has ever been voted on by congress. If your complaint is simply that the words "declare war" weren't in the bill congress passed to authorize the use of military force, I have a solution for you. I'll call it a use of military force. Now we're not at war. Somehow, I don't think that distinction makes anyone less dead.

This isn't a game. When you're on trial for something as trivial as cheating on your wife, you can debate the definition of the word "is" all you want. But when congress votes to send American soldiers to their possible deaths, they'd better mean it. Whatever you may think of him, Bush was VERY clear in his intentions to invade Iraq. If congress didn't want him to, they shouldn't have voted 373-146 (both houses combined) to allow it. Whether they choose to call it a war, a police action, or a grapefruit, they still voted for American soldiers to risk their lives. If that's not war, what is?

2006-12-26 09:47:39 · answer #2 · answered by Thisisnotmyrealname 2 · 1 0

Actually, by historical precedent, an authorization does indeed count. The first time this was used was in 1809 with the War of the Barbary Pirates. In that instance, Congress actually authorized the President and the Navy Department to act 'as if the United States was in a state of war.'

2006-12-26 08:28:42 · answer #3 · answered by sdvwallingford 6 · 0 0

Big two.

Sky Belle, read the question. When was the last formal, Constitutional, Declaration of War? Not Afghanistan, OIF, Gulf War 1, Viet Nam, or the "police action" in Korea. It was WW2.

Thisisnotmyrealname has a good point. A euphemism by any other name would smell about the same. The problem with "all possible means" or whatever is that it gives congress a coward's way out of owning a problem.

2006-12-26 07:40:47 · answer #4 · answered by Anonymous · 0 1

The last declared war by congress was World War II

2006-12-26 08:18:17 · answer #5 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

Congress last formally declared war in Dec. 1941

2006-12-26 08:29:17 · answer #6 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

After Newt G came back from lunch at a Taco Bell and started the afternoon off with a pull my finger joke.

2006-12-26 07:40:55 · answer #7 · answered by Anonymous · 0 1

the house doesn't declare war. congress does. and the last one was the "war on terror" after 9/11

2006-12-26 07:34:40 · answer #8 · answered by skybelle24 3 · 0 2

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2016-12-01 04:50:53 · answer #9 · answered by ? 4 · 0 0

WW2
skybelle please research the house of representatives to learn who/what they are.

2006-12-26 08:05:08 · answer #10 · answered by kissmy 4 · 0 0

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