Republicans v.s. Democrats Game?

Question

Are there any other people out there that think both parties are being played against each other by another group? I was born in the U.S. and have lived here over 30 years, and I would be a liar if I told you that I've never met a decent Republican OR Democrat. C'mon, people, we are being divided and conquered! We have to work together again to save our nation! Thoughts?

Answer 1

It is not a Republicans vs Democrats game, It is a Totalitarian attempt to subvert and conquer America from within game.

Just as Communists tried to subvert and take over various liberal organizations, this new Gang Of Predators, referred to by some as Neocons, or Straussians, but an alliance of those and others, notably Dominionists, and Moonies, who all hate Freedom and Democracy, have been working for years to subvert honest conservatives like Republicans and several Baptist and fundamentalist groups, as well as create new front groups like the Heritage Foundation, and the hundreds of other Orwellian named groups.

So the real fight is between those who favor Freedom and Democracy, and those who hate it. Most of Americans favor Democracy and Freedom and cover a broad range of politics, but since this GOP has already subverted the Republicans, the only alternative is Democrats, as supporting a third party only helps those you oppose.

Because the GOP is able to pump billions of dollars into very elaborate propaganda schemes, There are a very large number of folks who have fallen for them and not bothered to look deeper.

And there are apparently plenty of people who get paid by these GOP to pretend to be plain folk but push the GOP agenda, They have been caught red handed in many cases, but one can only believe that most get by with that at places like this all the time.

So yes a very broad range of people are working to save our Nation, our Civilization, and even out planet, But regardless of their politics they almost all support Democrats, not because they love Democrats but because they have little other choice

Answer 2

Not only that, but they're not much different. Last summer Mr Obama assigned his right-wing Committee of 13 the role of resolving the obvious and inevitable Congressional budget standoff by forging an anti-labor policy that cuts Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid, and uses the savings to bail out banks from even more loans that will go bad as a result of the IMF-style austerity program that Democrats and Republicans alike have agreed to back. Here's where the Committee of 13 comes into play. Given (1) the agreement that if the Republicans and Democrats do NOT agree on Mr. Obama’s dead-on-arrival “job-creation” ploy, and (2) Republican House Leader Boehner’s statement that his party will reject the populist rhetoric that President Obama is voicing these days, then (3) the Committee will get its chance to wield its ax and cut federal social spending in keeping with its professed ideology. President Obama signaled this long in advance, at the outset of his administration when he appointed his Deficit Reduction Commission, headed by former Republican Sen. Simpson and Rubinomics advisor to the Clinton administration Bowles. They were to recommend how to cut federal social spending while giving even more money away to Wall Street. He confirmed suspicions of a sellout by reappointing bank lobbyist Tim Geithner to the Treasury, and tunnel-visioned Ben Bernanke as head of the Federal Reserve Board. Cheer for the home team keeps the real debate off the agenda, and therefore is very useful.

Answer 3

I dont think the parties are being played against each other. I think both parties are in the pockets of oligarchs who use them indiscriminately in order to acheive their own anti-democratic ends. I believe they work together more than anyone truly realizes; in tandem, as foils of one another, they play hot-potato with the executive branch trading off every 4-8 years in order to facilitate the grand illusion of participatory government and freedom of political choice.

Enron had as many republicans on the payroll as they had democrats. Clinton and Bush 1 looked cosy enough raising money for tsunami relief and Hurricane Katrina relief.

These people are not ideologically opposed and with a lack of ideological difference, what true choice do the democrats and republicans represent? Coke and Diet-Coke? Whole Wheat Eggo Waffles vs original Eggo Waffles?

No choice at all.

We are not being divided and conquered. We are already hopelessly fragmented and there is no battle to be fought. Conquered? No, that would entail some notion of there being a conflict to begin with. We have all willingly given our autonomy and freedom away without a shot ever having been fired.

Save our nation? Pfeh...We cannot, nor should we be, saved from ourselves. We deserve everything we get, good and bad.

Answer 4

It goes beyond...into the workplace too that is the "get with me or against me" mentality.

It is interesting that for educational purposes we are boiled down to being for or against conformity or diversity. Surely political change has occurred with both those at the forefront and those behind. I have voted conservative all my life-yet disagreed with any policies I feel discriminate against race, religion or even sexual orientation(which I think is a choice)- how can diversity be expected when some are excluded?
Also....If I as a conservative feel that conforming is to go along with the Bush bashing and follow the opinions of celebrities, and often the mainstream media-then I must rebel. In fact, I have dear friends who are liberals. We have spoken about this, and wonder if we will begin to see an emerging third party.....representing values from both spectrums..
I had no respect for Clinton until I heard a statement about Bush and Kerry in the 04 election....to the effect of he liked them both-and felt they both desire sincerly to do best for their country, jusy with different ideologies.

Answer 5

I refuse to play the Republicans vs. Democrats game. I am a registered Independent who has votes for 6 different parties over the course of my life. I have met some good Republicans and some sood Democrats, but, by a vast majority, the most decent candidates tend to exist outside the 2-party system. Unfortunately, the majority of Americans would be lost without that meaningless little letter after a person's name on the ballot.

Democrats and Republicans both seen to enjoy the "you're either with us or against us" mentality of the American people. I prefer the "let's find a common ground" mentality. I only wish there were more of us.

Answer 6

I do believe that there are elements of govenment that transcend political eras and parties; intelligence agencies are a good example of that. But I don't think there is a "puppet master" pulling the strings of both parties in the background.

Answer 7

You are right. The two-party system sucks. Independent votes basically just get swallowed up in all the idiot rush, which is incredibly sad because I would like to vote independent. In fact, I would like to vote socialist.

But I can't say I think there's "another group" in control. The only ones in control are the ones in control right now 'cause the two-party system pretty much prevents us from accomplishing any kind of change.

Answer 8

Yes, they are the puppets of the huge Banks that own our country. Those Bank owners were J.P.Morgan, John D. Rockefeller and Paul Warburg. Those big banks own our Federal Reserve and we are their slaves, the president and our government, both Democrats and Republicans, are their frontmen, their puppets. The rich are getting richer, the middle and low income are getting poorer. The gap is getting wider between them and us.

Answer 9

the desire for everyone to unite is a little unrealistic when there is so much to disagree upon. i don't think there is "divide and rule" going on, but politicians emphasise the differences because the similarities are so huge.

Answer 10

I agree with you completely. The Dems put up a great fight blaming Iraq on the Republicans (even though many Dems signed the Iraq Resolution), but after the elections, it came out that they didn't have a plan either.

I think politicians should be banned from DC. It's a parallel universe down there!