In the movie Lord of the Rings, what are the orges - a combination of orcs and what???

Question

i'm not sure of the spelling. i know its in the first movie.

Answer 1

The race of Uruk-hai, described as large black orcs of great strength, first appeared about the year 2475 of the Third Age, when they conquered Ithilien and destroyed the city of Osgiliath. These original Uruks were of Sauron's breeding, but Saruman bred his own, making further improvements like resistance to sunlight, and giving them different armour and weapons. Being stronger, the Uruk-hai looked down upon and often bullied and cowed other kinds of Orcs.

In The Two Towers, Aragorn observes that the fallen Uruk-hai at Amon Hen were not like any breed of Orc he has seen before. Since he had previously served in the Army of Gondor as "Thorongil" and probably encountered the Uruks of Mordor, this strongly implies that those of Isengard are a different breed of Uruk, modified by Saruman. Treebeard speculates that Saruman has crossed Orcs with Men, a "black evil".

Following Treebeard's speculative statements, some readers have questioned whether Saruman's Uruk-hai at least, and all Uruk-hai at most, were bred by crossbreeding with Men. The book does not directly state this, though it heavily hints at it.

Other forces in Saruman's armies, and under his command in the Shire, definitely appear to have been hybrids, though these individuals, called "half-orcs" and "goblin-men" in The Two Towers, were as tall as Men and are never described simply as Orcs, as the Uruk-hai frequently are, and an account of the first Battle of the Fords of Isen in Unfinished Tales (part of Tolkien's hitherto unpublished writings) apparently treats Uruk-hai and "orc-men" separately.

A relevant passage in Morgoth's Ring (also part of Tolkien's hitherto unpublished writings) states that some Orcs at least were derived from Mannish stock.

"Finally, there is a cogent point, though horrible to relate. It became clear in time that undoubted Men could under the domination of Morgoth or his agents in a few generations be reduced almost to the Orc-level of mind and habits; and then they would or could be made to mate with Orcs producing new breeds, often larger and more cunning. There is no doubt that long afterwards, in the Third Age, Saruman rediscovered this, or learned of it in lore, and in his lust for mastery committed this, his wickedest deed: the interbreeding of Orcs and Men, producing both Men-orcs large and cunning, and Orc-men treacherous and vile." (Morgoth's Ring, "Myths Transformed" - Text X)

Given that "Orc-men" and "Men-orcs" are treated as distinct types of hybrids, and that "orc-men" are differentiated from Uruk-hai in Unfinished Tales, some then assume that the "Men-orcs large and cunning" are the Uruk-hai, at least those of Saruman. However, there is nothing in the quote itself that states that the term "Men-orcs" specifically applies to Uruk-hai.

Robert Foster's The Complete Guide to Middle-earth makes no references to Uruk-hai as the results of crossbreeding since the issue hinges on material unpublished when his book was written.

Answer 2

I'm not sure what orges are, but you might be talking about
Uruk-Hai. "Saruman has his own army, created from some of the most hideous life forms to Middle-earth. By foul craft he has crossed orcs with goblin men. And now...perfected. Grown beyond the height of men - straight-limbed and strong, fearing nothing."
So, Uruk-Hai are a combination of orcs and goblin men, but I don't think there even is such a thing as "orges".

Answer 3

I know for sure there is no such thing as orges in any of the Lord of the rings. You must have misheard orcs or uruk-hais or trolls or nasguls or some thing. Can you specify in detail the scene in which you heard the word? Then I will be able to help you better.

Answer 4

In the Fellowship of the Ring it says that the Uruk-hai are a "mixture" of elves and orcs. They aren't really a mixture persay, they were elves that were tortured and enslaved until they took on the characteristics of orcs. That's how they originally came around but when sarumon starts to grow them they are a half breed of elves and orcs.

Answer 5

I'm assuming you meant to spell something like "Urukhai", instead of "Orges". The're half men-half orcs.

Answer 6

orcs and men i thought. But I'm not sure how to spell (urek hai?) either

Answer 7

Oh he was best in the Sound of Music, wearing that tight fitting little number as he danced nimbly among the mountain ranges with the sheep.

Answer 8

the uru kai? (not sure of spelling myself) I think its something like orcs and elves combined or something like that

Answer 9

They said it was a transformed elf and orc.

The ogre's are their own race.

Answer 10

I don't think they have orges in LOTR.