what is your opinion about the marvel civil war event?

Question

your favourite parts

Answer 1

It's tough. It completely reverses what everyone knows about their favorite hero - be it Captain America, Iron Man, the X-men, and yes, Spider-Man.

Of course, it mainly affects those who have a secret identity - Those like the Fantastic Four aren't as affected, but the thing is, I thought it was an original concept - for the comic books, anyway. Nothing in this world is truly original anymore - it's all been reworked, rewritten, revamped - and yes, I like how Marvel involves real world events and political hot buttons (it's been doing that for years now, i.e. drugs, homosexuality, religion, race, etc., etc.) and tries to give it a classic good guy- bad guy look.

With that said, the Civil War pits the good guys against each other, which is the original part, further plying the classic "good guy fights another good guy by mistake" or the "good guy gets duped by bad guy to fight other good guy, they find out, team up to beat the crap outta the bad guy" storylines. At least here it's good guys versus good guys, who have different opinions on how things should be done in their world, their government.

I DIDN'T like the fact that Spider-Man's out, however. I do realize that it's a central part to the story, and that there's a lot of emotions involving said coming out party, but it goes against the grain of my readership blood, so to speak. I've always enjoyed Peter Parker and Spider-Man, the different personas they each have, and now EVERYONE knows who he is... but I also realize that this makes for a lot more possibilities in the future, as well. What will JJJ do now, now that he knows that his employee (freelancer, whatever) is also Spidey, his hated newspaper nemesis?

I'm reasonably sure that Marvel has thought this one through - it's a pretty big event, and I know that they don't want to retcon everything at a later point. But time will tell on what happens....

Answer 2

Personally, I think the whole thing stinks worse than yesterday's garbage!
It makes for a dramatic story moment and definitely helps sales now, but what do you do afterwards?
As far as I can tell, no one at Marvel (corporate or otherwise) seems to be looking at the big picture or thinking about the future.
In my humble opinion, for some time now, Marvel has just been "living in the moment". As long as sales are good, terrific. They have not been thinking about the long-term consequences of their stories. I can just imagine a lot of retconning by the 2010s.
How many villains are going to pursue their enemies and their loved ones now that they know who's under the mask? Some of the smarter ones might find lawyers and legally go after the richer ones like Tony Stark, but most are more the "Vengeance is mine!" type.
You can't "put the genie back in the bottle". A few like Daredevil and Captain America could assume new identities. After all, they've done it before.
But can you picture Spider-man trying to be someone else? He has enough problems trying to be Peter Parker!
Yet if Marvel tries to spring upon us some kind of "cosmic reset" to their universe like either Doctor Strange "mind-wiping" everyone to forget the secret identities, their version of an "Infinite Crisis" or the whole storyline turns out to be a gigantic "What If?" situation, then we out here in Readerland are going to scream very negatively about how irresponsible Marvel was to begin with and what sloppy storytelling their "resolution" is.

Answer 3

Okay, here's the deal (briefly, I suggest you buy the books) Some young heroes tracked down some villians to a home in Stanford, Connecticut. They video tape the battle for a reality show and in the insuing battle, a villian blows up and kills a bunch of children. Following the event, there's new pressure from the public to get rid of supers. Tony Stark, a.k.a. Iron Man, works with the govt. for a possible solution, hero registration. Basically, all the heroes would unmask, give up their identities and work for the government. Naturally, some were for this, some against it. Leading the opposition is Captain America, who, along with most of the New Avengers, old school heroes, and Young Avengers, opposes Tony, Reed Richards, and some other heroes. In the middle is Spider-Man, whom Tony has taken on a fatherly role in recent months. Spidey eventually sides with Tony and Tony convinces Spidey to unmask to show his allegiance to registration, which he does. Battles take place between Cap's team and Tony's team. One battle sees the return of Thor, who kills Goliath. Turns out Thor is not really Thor, but a clone created by Reed Richards. Soon, Spidey sees the error of his ways and defects to Cap's team. Meanwhile, Richards and Tony have built a huge prison in the negative zone, where anyone who doesn't register, hero or villian is taken. At the same time, Tony recruits the Thunderbolts- a team of villians posing as heroes -to also fight the heroes. The Civil War comes to a head at a battle between the two forces at the prison. Cloak teleports the battle out to New York City where there are tons of people. Cap is kicking Tony's butt and about to finish it when a bunch of regular peopl jump on top of him. Cap realizes he no longer has the support of America and surrenders. Aftermath: Iron Man becomes director of SHIELD. Cap is arrested and later shot. Many heroes go underground, others register. Start reading The Initiative to follow the aftermath.

Answer 4

I don't like to pass judgment on the Civil War series until the series is complete. It will be interesting to see what happens after it all. I don't think they would try to hit the "reset" button but this series is going to be Joe Quesada's legacy and I don't think he wants to be remembered as the man who ruined Marvel. As for my favorite moments, I enjoyed the return of "Thor" (in quotations because I know he's not the real one), Spiderman unmasking and him going rogue and Captain America taking out the S.H.I.E.L.D. guards in issue #1. My least favorite moment, being a huge Spidey fan, was also Spiderman unmasking. I enjoyed it because it was such a huge step for Peter as a man and how it all played out in Amazing #532 when he discusses it with Aunt May and Mary Jane and they support him in his decision was very emotional. But on the other hand, once he went through with it then his life was over because his life as well as his loved ones is forever altered. Now that he went rogue, they're all criminals. MJ won't be able work ( the wife of a "criminal" on the run) and they'll always be in hiding. It will be a long time before all their lives return to something that somewhat resembles almost normal.

Answer 5

Lee Houston Jr. has hit the nail on the thumb. I suspect that Marvel will simply write different stories and totally ignore the mess that Civil War makes, and not really deal with the ramifications. It will be ‘as if’ there was a cosmic rebooting, or a global mindwipe, but they will not bother to explain what happened or how it was done.

The thing that initially bothered me the most about Civil War is the fact that it is simply poor writing— nothing about it is original. It is simply a warmed over reworking of the themes in our headlines—registration of illegal aliens (registration of people with secret identities) and incarceration of enemy combatants at Guantanamo (in the Negative Zone), for example.

But, what is even worse, is the fact that Marvel is trying to sway their readers’ political views in this dishonest, underhanded manner. Not by means of honest, reasoned debate-- oh, no— if they did that, someone might be able to work out the logical flaws in their ideas, and refute them! But by presenting them in a disguised form Marvel hopes to sneak the ideas past our critical faculties, and get us to accept things that are neither true nor morally right by means of our emotional attachment to their characters. When I realized THAT, I determined to encourage everybody I meet to resist their brainwashing, and to stop buying Marvel until Civil War is ended.

Considering the way politicians use money to get favors, and give favors to get money, I wonder which politician or party Marvel is working with, to seduce and subvert the American people, and to bypass the political process in our nation? I suppose we will be able to tell which political party Marvel favors by looking at which side is made to look like the bad guys in Civil War.

But make up your own mind. Don’t let Marvel do it for you.

24 DEC 06, 0130 hrs, GMT.

Answer 6

wow... such anger.....


Though I'm not a huge fan of what mavel is doing.... such a massive "world event" (wether it is or not), so soon after House of M... It has turned out better then i thought it would. It has had a few good shocks (not great ones) and some great artwork.... But my favorite part has been the reintroduction of the Punisher into "mainstream" marvel. I love his MAX title but it is about time he was featured in "regular continuty" again. Like most of marvel's massive cross overs, it has had a few up moments and a few down ones.



Besides its not like DC is doing any better.... they have also reset their reality (and characters) once too often recently.