Is it really a huge deal to honest people that Homeland Security may violate your privacy?

Question

When it comes to flying and aiport security would it really bother you as an HONEST AMERICAN that Homeland Security may obtain more information about you than they claim they do? Does it really bother you that they don't tell you the whole truth about their information practices?

Answer 1

"If you are innocent, you have nothing to fear from government intrusion"..is that about the gist of your argument?

Unfortunately for you, there's a little document called the US CONSTITUTION. The Fourth Amendment guarantee against unreasonable search and seizure is there for a reason, goddamnit. If the government is lying to me about what they're doing, then why the fvck should I trust them in the first place? It's sickening how many people would trade their civil liberties in for a false sense of security. You'd sign away the entire bill of rights in a heartbeat if you thought it'd stop al-qaeda, right? Go to North Korea or Iran if you feel that way. This is the Land of the Free and the Home of the Brave for a reason. Our forefathers and our fighting men and women didn't die so we could throw away our rights.

Answer 2

Totally, that is a huge violation of the 4th ammendment in the U.S. Constitution, which is given to ALL americans.The 4th ammendment is YOUR right to privacy. The fact that I am an Honest person, this kinda thing gets me even more mad, because my privacy should not be violated. And I am aware of how complex the situation is, because of the War On Terror, and we all need to be on high alert, and some may argue, "what SHOULD the CIA do then?" I guess all I can propose is to enforce more Security at airports. and maybe the CIA can violate the privacy of those who are NOT as honest as the rest of us. and check those that have a high level of suspicion, Lastly, the CIA needs to stop wasting time on violating our right to privacy. After all we are HONEST Americans and the CIA is just wasting time and money on us, when they could be catching Bin Ladin.

thank you

Answer 3

You seem to have an inflated opinion about the moral character of US government agents, whether they work for the FBI, the US Marshals Service, JTF, BATF, the IRS, or Homeland Security. These fellows are thugs who think they are above the very laws that they enforce on your fellow citizens.

Think a bit. A US Marshal murdered a boy, Sam Weaver, by shooting him in the back as he was running away from what, to him, were armed, hostile, unidentified "bad men" who'd just shot his dog.

An FBI sniper shot Vicki Weaver as she was holding her baby. The baby was saved from injury when Randy Weaver, Vicki's husband, snatched it from her arms as she fell dead to the floor. The next morning, the FBI agents who carried out that murder shouted taunts at the surviving family members about the dead wife and mother.

I don't believe for one minute that the Branch Davidians in Waco, Texas, set the fire that burned them to death inside their church. They might have been religious people with odd beliefs, but that doesn't mean they were any more prone toward mass suicide - taking their children with them - than anyone else is. In fact, suicide is usually considered a sin. I think the US government probably carried out a mass murder that time, too.

And then there's the case of Gordon Kahl, a poor farmer who studied the federal tax laws and found out that the US government was cheating. He stopped filing his income tax returns (which he wasn't required to file because he was so poor) and began asking other people to stop filing them also. When your government heard about it, someone in the IRS ordered him killed and requisitioned a team of federal marshals to be the hit men.

Read the full story about Gordon Kahl at...
http://au.answers.yahoo.com/question/index;_ylt=AkTMzaZwyqJXU0OWtecjIMTg5gt.?qid=20061220093635AAspZWV

Nobody in their right mind, honest or not, would want the US government, corrupt as it is, to pay them any notice whatsoever. It has become what the old Soviet government used to be to the Russians.

Answer 4

Yes. First of all, they get a lot of it wrong. Secondly, they acquire so much information that they can't poosibly process it all, leaving bigger gaps. Thirdly, they are probably selling that info to marketing firms, who will call me as I try to eat dinner. And finally, for a dept which has the word 'security' in their name, they are not very good at protecting people's information, or their own equipment, for that matter.

Those are the practical reason why I disagree with any policy to collect and store data, however, I also disagree on the basis of civil liberties. Anything that can be abused eventually will be abused.

"Those that would give up essential liberties in exchange for a little safety and security deserve neither." Ben Franklin.

Answer 5

It doesn't bother me. But I'll admit I rarely fly. What bothers me more than the privacy issue is the whole political correctness of airline screening. With Norman Mineta at the helm of the DOT, the airlines will never be safe. Detaining 2 or more people of the same ethnic origin is discrimination, resulting in fines to the airlines. so you can whine about your privacy, but I'd be more concerned about the lack of discrimination. the only thing that prevented the 20th terrorist in 9/11 from boarding his plane was the gut instinct of a customs inspector. his actions today would get the airlines a big fine. go figure.

Answer 6

I am an honest American, and as such, there's absolutely, positively no reason why homeland swiss-cheese security should be violating my privacy. If they think I've committed a crime and have evidence compelling enough for a judge to issue a warrant, then we don't have a problem.

But, yeah, it bothers me. It bothers me because there's no recourse for those who get put on "lists", because there's no accountability, and because the road to hell is paved with "good intentions".

I love my country, but fear my government.

Answer 7

We live under a justice system that is governed by the law of precedence. There is never a outright assault on our liberties, just a systematic chipping away of liberties. I think GWB is an idiot. Today a terrorist is an enemy combatant guilty of treason. Ten years from now, I may be....To paraphrase Ben Franklin, a society who fore sakes liberty for security will have neither

Answer 8

If this government were honest, I wouldn't mind. But with congressional approval ratings at less than 20%, presidential approval ratings in the low 40's high 30's, massive pork spending, waste, and corruption, as well as criminal lawyers and judges helping criminals go free and putting honest people away or bankrupting them, invading our privacy and passing laws against the will of the people....

I don't trust the government, even as an honest person, because they have access to all my information and they abuse their power.

Answer 9

I kinda like my Gov't in plain sight--nice and transparent. Freedom of Information--getting disappeared for the language in a secret database file is not my Idea of a free country.

Answer 10

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