If the Pac-10 is so bad why do they hold a slight edge over Big 10 in Rose?

Question

Pac-10 has won the rose bowl more times than the Big Ten. USC has won the Rose Bowl something like 20 times. If the Pac-10 was so bad as some idiot fans want to say then shouldn't the Pac-10 have a horrible Rose Bowl record? After all historically the Rose Bowl was the grandaddy of them all.



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rose_Bowl_Game

Well it is hard to find stats outside of championship games. But here is the BCS numbers and the Pac-10 is one of the better conferences based on BCS results.

Conference W - L %
MWC 1 - 0 1.000
SEC 7 - 4 0.636
Big Ten 8 - 5 0.615
Pac-10 6 - 4 0.600
Big East 5 - 4 0.555
Big 12 5 - 6 0.455
ACC 1 - 7 0.125
WAC 0 - 0 0.000
Independent 0 - 2 0.000

To answer your question Cory this year I would rate top 4 in conference as:

1) Big 10 (Easy #1 when only look at top 4)
2) SEC
3) Big 12
4) Pac-10
5) ACC
6) Big East

Answer 1

I don't think the Pac-10 has been historically weak, only over the last 30 years or so. Of course, it has recently had a USC led resurgence, but before USC's back to back titles, how long had it been since the Pac-10 had won one? Washington in 1991. And before that? USC in 1978. And then 1974, the year I was born, also USC.

That's 5 titles in 32 years, 4 going to one team and 3 have been shared titles (74 with Oklahoma, 92 with Miami, and 03 LSU) .

In that same time frame, current members of the
Big 10: 4 titles, 3 teams: 82 and 86 Penn St (then independent) 97 Michigan (shared), 02 OSU (and playing for one this year)

ACC: 9 titles, 4 teams: 81 Clemson, 93 and 99 FSU, 83, 87, and 89 Miami (then independent) 91 (shared) and 01 Miami (then with Big East) 90 Georgia Tech (shared)

SEC: 7 titles 5 teams: 78 (shared), 79, and 92 Alabama, 80 Georgia, 96 Florida (and playing for one this year), 98 Tennessee, and 03 (shared) LSU

Big East: 1 title: 76 Pittsburgh (then independent), losing Miami and Notre Dame's football independence hurts their total by 7

Big 12: 9 titles, 4 teams: 74(shared), 75, 85, and 2000 Oklahoma, 90(shared) Colorado, 94, 95, and 97(shared) Nebraska, and 05 Texas

Notre Dame on their own has 2: 77 and 88

other teams and conference combine for 1: 1984 BYU, then with the WAC conference, now with the Mountain West.

Incidently, going back all time, the PAC 10 can add another 12 tiltle. Mostly by USC, but also Cal, Stanford and UCLA.
My Big 12 can add 11, by Oklahoma, Nebraska, Texas, and Texas A & M.
The Irish can add another 9.
Don't make me count the titles the Big 10 and SEC can add. There's a lot of them.

How many of those 10 BCS games for the PAC 10 have been played by USC. I can think of at least 4. That leaves the rest of the Pac-10 at 3-3 in the BCS. And what about W-L % over the course of the season? Only 30 - 60% of a conference gets to play in a bowl game.
This years top 4 by conference standings:
Pac-10- USC, Cal, Oregon ST, and UCLA
Big 10- Ohio St, Michigan, Wisconsin, and Penn St
SEC Florida, Arkansas, Auburn, and LSU
Big 12- Oklahoma, Nebraska, Texas, and Texas A&M
Big East- Louisville, West Virginia, Rutgers and S. Florida
ACC- Wake Forrest, Georgia Tech, Va Tech, and BC
How would you rate each set of 4?

Answer 2

That easy, its for a few simple reasons. First off, the pac-10 was one of the first conferences to desergrate. Secondly, home field adavantage. The rose bowl is played in pasadena, which is basically USC and UCLA's back yard. Also, its alot closer to the other schools also, they dont have to travel half way across the country. We all know how important home field is in college football. And Lastly, because the Big Ten has a longet layoff than the pac-10. They dont play for nearly a month before the rose bowl, while the pac -10 usually has two more games to keep them warmed up.

Answer 3

Well, usually when you talk about the strength of a conference you need to bring up more than one team. Since only one team can win the Rose bowl each year what are the rest of the Pac10 teams doing. I'll answer that. Not much. There are several conferences that may have one team that can hang with the best of another conference but when you look at a conference as a whole like the SEC or Big10 there is really no comparison to their strength from top to bottom.

Answer 4

Because they rate the Pac-10 as a whole and not based on just one or two teams. If we could get Stanford out of the Pac-10 and get Boise State instead, the conference as a whole would get a lift.

Answer 5

Who said the Pac-10 was always terriable? You are talking about a game that is played ONCE A YEAR for starters. Then as was said talk about more then one team if you want to say the CONFRENCE is better.

Answer 6

because the pac 10 kicks *** and everyone mad because there better

Answer 7

Who knows.

Answer 8

BIG TEN IS UN-BEATABLE!!!!!!!!!!! pac-10 sucks!!!