which one is better for gaming?

Question

which one will laster long and play battlefield 2142 on high
HP is cheaper and a better deal but dells good too, hard choice most importantly which one would YOU GET.



http://www.shopping.hp.com/webapp/shopping/cto/computer_customize_components.do
http://configure.us.dell.com/dellstore/config.aspx?c=us&cs=19&l=en&oc=DNCWGA1&s=dhs

dont use hp link heres one that works
http://www.shopping.hp.com/webapp/shopping/computer_can_series.do?storeName=computer_store&category=notebooks&a1=Display&v1=17.0%26quot%3B&series_name=dv9000t_series

click customize for hp you ll see why its a hard choice cuz of the 512 video card.

I have to disagree with u who ever said laptops r not for gaming. both laptops use there own video card memory which mean there suitable for gaming.

some one posted this system is this good laptop and is graphics card good or better then 7600 and 7900

http://www.ibuypower.com/ibp/store/configurator.aspx?mid=173

ok to confirm that 512 mb doesn't matter someone told me that 512 mb card would last in the long run and it would have better texture quality. Is this true?

also what duo Intel processor should i get without braking the bank or burning my wallet ?

on a dell inspiration e1705 do i need 17 inch UltraSharp™ Wide Screen UXGA Display with TrueLife™ to play a game smoothly someone told me if u dont get the right kind of screen for a laptop the game wont play smoothly or can i stick to the cheap 7 inch Wide Screen XGA+ Display [Included in Price] its 129 dollars cheaper.

Answer 1

Update #4: The WUXGA with TrueLife will definitely look a lot better, I just wonder if you'll have to drop your detail settings to keep high framerates at the higher resolution. I found one person on Dell's support forum who said he didn't like the XGA screen- I don't think that's a common complaint.

http://www.ocforums.com/showthread.php?t=488743&highlight=wuxga

http://forums.us.dell.com/supportforums/board/message?board.id=insp_video&message.id=151285

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Update #3: Battlefield 2142 seems to be a special case- their engine actually benefits from 512mb, and automatically adjusts texture detail according to how much video memory is available, so in some resolutions the ATI X800XL with 512mb looked better than higher-end X850XT with 256mb. Keep in mind Battlefield 2142 is the ONLY game so far where this applies, and personally I'll take framerates over texture quality any day. Getting 10-15 fps less because of a slower video chipset is noticeable, while slight details are hard enough to spot in a still image.

Processor budget? Some will disagree, but I'd take the least expensive option (even Core Duo if you're on a tight budget) and put that $$$ saved into upgrading your video. I'd go for the least expensive Core 2 Duo (T5600) but if you've gotta costs, the CPU is where to cut.

Gaming performance is almost entirely GPU-limited, not CPU. At hgh-quality for most games, Core 2 Duo's advantage over Core Duo is about 1 fps. You have to drop down to low quality for the difference in CPU to appear.

The gap is much wider at the desktop level, where Core 2 Duo blows away Pentium-D and AMD X2.

Here's the scoop on Battlefield 2142:

http://www.amdzone.com/modules.php?op=modload&name=Sections&file=index&req=viewarticle&artid=182&page=1

Good luck!
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Update #2 : Whoa... I stand corrected. The mobile X1600 is slightly better than the 7600, but not as good as the 7900. Here's a very long description, skip down to the bottom of the article, it tells you which are low-end/high-end options.

http://www.notebookreview.com/default.asp?newsID=3056&guide=Graphics+Card+Guide+2006

The Asus isn't a bad machine - I'd certainly take that over the HP. It doesn't beat the maxed out Dell (obviously), but it's a lot
less expensive...

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Update: OK, the HP is cheaper but the Dell has it beat hands down in the video department (which is the most important component for a gaming machine) Spending $125 to upgrade from 256 to 512mb is a waste of money. A 256mb 7900GS smokes a 512mb 7600, and HP only offers the latter.

Here's the head to head comparison:

http://www.gpureview.com/show_cards.php?card1=409&card2=394

Note that total memory (512 vs 256) is much less important than other features of the graphics card/chipset. You're looking at twice as many shader operations per sec, more pipelines, twice the bandwidth... No contest!

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That Dell would actually be a good gaming machine, provided you take the video card upgrade to the Geforce Go 7900GS (for an extra $257) This upgrade will make more difference for gaming than choosing a better processor/CPU option.

The Radeon X1400 would be ok (far better than integrated video), but if you want it to handle 3D first-person games like Battlefield 1942, FEAR, Half-Life 2, or online games like Guild Wars, Vanguard etc. invest in the best GPU you can get...

The only downside to this being a gaming rig is whatever they currently offer may be all she wrote- there's no guarantee that you'll be able to upgrade the video a year or two down the road... Whereas with a desktop, you can always replace your PCI-e card with the latest & greatest hardware from Nvidia or ATI.

Answer 2

Depends...
- What processor you are going to get?
- What video card are you going to get?

The Dell has an option for the 7900 nvidia card... The HP does not.

The rest of the features are pretty standard. 80GB HDD is usually plenty unless you umm.. collect certain videos.

If this is for gaming then I'll go for the 7900 gs with a core 2 duo.

Edit: Forget about the 512mb 7600... The 512mb is overrated. the 7600 is a mid-class card. The 7900 is far superior.

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"ok to confirm that 512 mb doesn't matter someone told me that 512 mb card would last in the long run and it would have better texture quality. Is this true?"

a 7600 will not "last longer" than a 7900.

Any Core 2 Duo is better than no core 2 duo... :)
If you look at any and all benchmarks on the net you will see that what I said above holds true. The Athlons do not trump any of the 3 core 2 duo/extreme models.

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Do not get the x1400 if you value gaming at more than low-med settings. I have a x1400 in my acer travelmate 4674wlmi. I know what I am talking about. Getting an x800 would be more powerful than an x1400.

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The screen size isn't such a big deal. Though the different panel types do have a better contrast ratio so the quality of the picture is better. I'm not too sure about Dell LCD screens so I can't comment on the panel type they use. A-IPS or E-IPS panel types are nicer but I wouldn't base a purchase on just a monitor. I'd rather have nice specs than just a nice monitor. You know what I mean?

About the game playing smoothly comment, the only way that the monitor will hinder the game is if the monitor has a crazy high response time. Usually, LCDs are around 12-8ms response time. Some LCDs are lower at around 5ms. I couldn't find the response time for the Dell screens, sorry.

Answer 3

The included XGA+ screen should be fine. The more expensive screen just adds a higher resolution that you can't play games in anyway. 1440x900 is the resolution for most widescreen 19" monitors. I don't know about you, but that's plenty for me.

The E1705 runs hot, don't place it on your lap, use a table. See the note about heat issues below.

Answer 4

I'd get a Dell XPS 700. It's the ultimate gaming PC. Although, it costs $5000 maxed out, but it will start at $1500 with some cool stuff like a physics accelerator.

Answer 5

I would get neither. Both are laptops, and so both have crappy integrated graphics. Laptops are not meant for gaming. The screens aren't high enough quality, they don't have video cards (they use integrated video that shares your RAM and CPU power, instead of a separate board that has it's own like in a desktop), and the CPU's tend to be highly under-powered compared to a desktop. On top of that, you pay twice as much for the hardware.

If you are serious about gaming, get a desktop.

Answer 6

niether.
try this place out. I did, and am extremely happy with my purchase.
http://www.ibuypower.com/mall/lobby.htm

get a desktop if you want it for gaming.

Answer 7

dont get dell the battery gets hot and the laptops explode and burn

Answer 8

go for dell
it works good...