Unfortunately, you are right on. War today is different, much different, than 100 years ago, so the rules change. An armed citizen not wearing a uniform is just as much of a threat as an armed soldier in uniform. We are now asking soldiers to do a different job, without equipping or training them. They are much more like police now, and they are more reactive (holding fire until fired upon, etc...), which makes it a much more dangerous job.
I don't know the details of the 8 Marines (just glanced at the headline), but my personal opinion is that the line is drawn when malice aforethought occurs. In other words, if the Marines engage a perceived threat, and later found to have made a mistake, then so be it. If they, like an earlier story, saw a citizen, stalked her, kidnapped and killed her, then that is a problem.
Edit: Read one story- the alleged lying afterwards sure seems to indicate consciousness of guilt, but that by itself proves nothing. One other thought- we train and expect these men to use and embrace the use of force and violence, yet punish them for using it.
2006-12-21 12:41:21
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answered by sandsunsurf 3
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I'm not too sure about this case. You make a very good point, and here's another one: One instructor told me this war is very similar to Vietnam. Children, women, and other civilians are arming themselves with bombs and guns, and it confuses the soldiers. When you see "civilians" committing mass murders, who do you trust? Do you let this woman live because she's a woman, or do you kill her because she could be a threat? I think this case and every other like it should be thoroughly researched, but I don't think there will ever be a single solution. The goal of terrorism is to instil fear, and they've done that. It's hard to fight fear.
2006-12-21 20:35:09
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answered by teeney1116 5
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The only injustice is that the soldiers were in Iraq in the first place. Besides that, its clear that the US military lied about what happened up front, which is a clear indication they did not want the truth to come out. Would you rather they be tried in Iraqi courts where they would surely receive the death penalty?
2006-12-21 21:02:00
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answered by Anonymous
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How many people understand it's both unjust and reprehensible for service personal to murder civilians? I'm not talking about so-called "collateral damage" here (that's more than bad enough), but going into civilian buildings and murdering civilians.
Then again, how many people understand that it's unjust adn reprehensible to involve yourself in someone else's civil war?
2006-12-24 02:05:40
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answered by Anonymous
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Teeney111 is right on, in our view. When you are not fighting against a uniformed, easily discernible enemy, and you suffer the loss of comrades killed by "who knows who", it's easy to freak out and strike out at anybody in the immediate area. But their gutless superior officers, who want to CYA themselves, go along with political requests to court-martial our troops. DISGUSTING!!
2006-12-21 20:51:49
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answered by Lee & Mina 2
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i think what happens in combat stays in combat,
and its a shame for our boys to protect themselves
then be prosecuted for it. geesh what bs to put on there heads,
get yourself killed or go to prison what a dilemma.
its called war, and it has casualties. look at american soldiers tally so far.
hats off to the soldiers serving.
2006-12-22 07:35:21
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answered by sharma 4
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It is easy to criticize the marines for what they did, but put ourselves in there place and we would probably done the same, who do you trust and why am I here anyway
2006-12-21 21:51:55
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answered by xyz 6
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If anyone should be charged with warcrimes its the idiots who led us into this war-not the soldiers.
2006-12-21 21:07:02
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answered by Anonymous
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I long for the day all US soldiers are brought up on war crimes charges for fighting this malicious unprovoked war, and the millions of innocent lives they have taken.
2006-12-21 20:27:56
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answered by rajjfahneen 1
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We train them to kill and protect themselves and then we prosecute them for doing what we trained them to do let them go
2006-12-22 09:21:42
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answered by L J 4
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