My daugher had 20-25% delay in all areas at age 3 and 11 months, the state we lived in did a wonderful job helping her with full day pre-k and help is all the areas. We moved to a different state and they redid the IEP and took away some for her sp ed, she still has speech, help with her hands, behavior help, an aid , social help.She goes to school 2 hs and 40-50 mins and they refuse to give her a full day of K. The problem is they took away her emotional help, they said she didn't have an emotional delay anymore.The social worker did the EMOTIONAL delay part, he didn't show up at the meeting. Since, I'm trying to figure out what is wrong with my daughter and the dept above the school has been worthless. I took my daughter to a child psychiatyist with PHD. to figure out what is wrong with her, I brought along the iep and DR told me my daughter does have an emotional delay and s.worker is wrong and full of crap. I've an parent advocate, now what
2006-12-14
05:24:08
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I have an parent advocate, what can I do with this news that my daughter does have an emtional delay. Also, is there any way I can force the school to give my daughter a full day of K since they messed up?I still have to take her to 2 specialist, neurologist aand sensory eval to find out what's wrong with her.
2006-12-14
05:41:48 ·
update #1
my daughter is 5
2006-12-14
05:44:49 ·
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they do provide a full day to ESE, poor child for free ,
2006-12-14
12:27:57 ·
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she can speak now 3-4 at a time. I have to take her 2 specialist for sensory and a neurologiat. She has problem with noises, they hurt her ears. I don't know why most of her teachers think ADHD? ADHD doesn't cause that many delays?She has behavior managent but after a week break, she started regessing in her behaviors at school. They alway say at school she doesn't follow directions.
2006-12-15
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THe other answers to your question are very good. You do have rights as a parent. Keep in mind that you are a full, legal member of your daughter's child study team. You have the right to dispute their finding and to request that the district pay for a second evaluation. I don't know your daughter's diagnosis. If she does have social skills deficits, such as those found in children with autism spectrum disorders, you might be able to argue that she needs the structure, services and the continuity that only a full-day program can provide. In my own child's case, we also argued for services by presenting our case to the Board of Ed in our town. Our son was thus able to attend the half-day kindergarten and spend the rest of the school day with the learning & language disabilities teacher.
Another option might be to find a pre-school program in your area that has an extended 5-day pre-k program for 5 year olds. Thus you could fill in the other half-day your child needs while you continue to argue for more services. As one of the other answers advised, document everything, including all phone calls that you make. Also, begin talking with your district now about what options there are for the extended school year. If their program is simply targeted at helping children with academic delays, it might not be appropriate. We've successfully argued for our district to pay for summer camp for our son so that he wouldn't regress socially over the summer.
Another tactic that has worked for some families is to tell the district that you might have to ask for an out-of-district placement for your child if they cannot meet her needs. Such programs can cost a district between $30,000 and $80,000 per year. It can give them the incentive to try harder to meet your needs in district. Good luck!
2006-12-14 09:25:54
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answered by kathrynslp 2
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First of all, the school will only have to provide a full day of kindergarten if they provide that for other typical five year olds. they do NOT have to provide anything greater than what they provide for their other students. Some schools do, but they are not required to, and it's rare indeed to find a school that goes over the legal minimum.
Secondly, I would never have agreed to hold the IEP meeting without the full attendence of everyone on the IEP team. it's illegal and really unethical. Remember that in the future, if a team member is not there, you may request that the meeting be delayed or rescheduled. If you don't agree with the findings that the social worker (which is odd, why is there a social worker on your team...it should have been a psychometrist or psychologist covering that section of the testing), then I would put into writing your disagreements, call another IEP meeting and discuss.
Please remember to always put everything in writing. That is the only way you will prove that all of this is happening (as an advocate I have seen schools outright lie in meetings and then later on been shocked when confronted with emails confirming parent's side) You will not win due process without these, because parents are not allowed to testify on anything that is not in writing.
So, what I would discuss with the school, is precisely the issues that she is having in class, and then ask how they plan on addressing these issues. What emotional problems is she having? Can it be addressed through behavioral help? Is it basically counseling or social skills help? Call IEP meetings. Ask for goals to be changed. Take your advocate, there is no point in having one if they will not help you with your meetings.
Good luck
2006-12-14 08:33:31
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I sued the school district for a violation of my daughter's rights. I totally agree with Melissa. She has great answers. I would like to add a few other things.
You are the most important member of your daughter's IEP team. If you do not feel your daughter's needs are being met, then you have every right to pursue it until you are satisfied or all due process procedures have been exhausted.
You have the right to invite anyone you want to an IEP meeting. See if your daughter psychiatrist would be willing to attend in person or by phone. If the psychiatrist is too busy, have recommendations for treatment submitted in writing to you, and take a copy to the school. Ask the psychiatrist if full days of school would be recommended, and if the school is not able to provide those, what other remedies the psychiatrist would recommend. Ask for referrals to programs that would be beneficial. If the school does not give your daughter full day education, you may be able to get them to pay for other programs to assist her.
You may need to file a complaint with the state. At this point, since advocacy groups don't seem to be helping you, you may want seek a lawyer specialized in educational rights. Your state's Department of Education might be able to give the name of low cost or free attorneys in your area.
Good Luck to you. Finally, take a moment to pat yourself on the back, early identification and intervention is essential. You might have a long, frustrating road ahead of you, but your daughter is fortunate you are there!
2006-12-15 10:10:23
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answered by katty0205 2
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If the doctor agrees there is an emotional delay, then I would have him put it in writing, and give it to the child study team.
You can tell them that you will contact the state where you live to file a complaint about the problems.
You are entitled to what is called "due process" in regards to disagreeing with the child study team. It is good that you have an advocate, she/he will help you with this area.
Here is a good site that has information for people who have difficulties with special education laws. I'll list it in the source section.
Why was the social worker not at the meeting?
Good luck.
2006-12-14 06:54:54
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answered by coridroz 3
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''We moved to a different state and they redid the IEP''
Write and request 'prior written notice' for their reasons on making all these changes. List each one of the changes they made. Go to the US DOE website and search for 'prior written notice'. They have a form that shows how prior written notice must be written by the school. Print this out and send it along with the PWN request. This way, they will know you mean business.
See, they have to have 'legal' reasons for their changes. If they do not have legal reasons, they will change their minds when you request the PWN, instead of putting their 'illegal' reasons in writing. If they have no legal reasons for the changes they made in the IEP, they can not legally do them.
If they don't give you this PWN, file a formal state complaint and state will force them to give you the PWN.
This PWN will let you know the reasoning behind their changes, if the changes are for the benefit of the child.
''and took away some for her sp ed''
Same as above. Write and request PWN for them taking away what ever they took away from her sped. THey are required by law to give this to you. If they have no legal reasons for doing this, they will HAVE to give these things back to her.
''they refuse to give her a full day of K.''
Same as above. Request PWN and watch them change their minds.
''The problem is they took away her emotional help, they said she didn't have an emotional delay anymore.''
Request PWN for taking away emotional help. Also state they have to show you written proof that she no longer has an emotional delay. They can't just 'say' it.
Go to www.schwablearning. org and sign up for free to get help on their 'parent to parent' message board. This is the best place for this kind of help. They are more knowledgable than me so they can give you even more help.
Also go to www.wrightslaw.com and www.reedmartin.com and read up on your rights. Parents and children have lots of rights in special ed and schools will not let you know this because they do not want to help. Most schools all over the country are like this.
2006-12-14 12:30:15
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answered by jdeekdee 6
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It is sometimes difficult to get the services your child needs because districts are sometimes reluctant to spend the money on needed services. Also, testing is not done appropriately or fully and parents are not aware of the laws that empower them and give them rights. You are a step ahead now with a parent advocate. Ask her to help you be fully informed of what you are entitled to by federal law. Know your rights. There are certain time restraints the district also has in meeting your requests. Keep very good records in one notebook of all contacts and doctor reports. Question the special education director of the district. It sounds to me like your child needs full-time services with vocational, speech, educational and counseling services.
2006-12-14 13:58:23
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answered by StarGalactica 2
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Sounds like maybe autism. Does she speak at all? What are some of her charateristics. What state are you in? You have to fight for everything. My brother was the same way. You have to be good friends with that adovocate. Get the dr. to put something in wrting. Im a psychologist, what are some of her symptoms. any birth traumas?
2006-12-14 16:24:11
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answered by fireeyedmaiden 3
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To threaten is a nasty ingredient at the same time as a instructor yet IEP's may be bumped off if performed in the right way. If, for the duration of evaluation, it really is stumbled on the student no longer calls for the changes or the different changes the IEP may be canceled. this is extremely uncommon that this occurs because the training career likes to label little ones for life. although, IEP's do replace and it is the reason you've both a each year or a bi-each year evaluation and overview of the IEP. As for the instructor. Kill her with kindness. call each so typically and ask about your newborn. if she will be able to no longer answer then call and examine with the particular training instructor who also desires to be operating consisting of your newborn. this is not adequate on an IEP to easily make changes in the college room. by using regulation the particular training instructor has to spend such an excellent type of hours a week consisting of your newborn (no matter if the IEP is for particular training or proficient training). reliable success......in case you get no longer some thing from those 2, examine with the imperative of the college and address your concerns. do no longer hassle about reprieve by using the instructor......only keep battling for your newborn's rights....
2016-10-18 07:12:19
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answered by Anonymous
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It seems they may be violating her LRE (Least Restrictive Environment) by not providing 'to the maximum extent appropriate' adequate 'supports and services' required to keep her in the typical environment. Ask 'in writing' for them to explain to you why they refuse to implement services and supports that could make her successful in attending all day. (That's called PWN)
2006-12-14 22:55:43
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answered by tfinle 2
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