When AA first came about they boasted numbers of 75%recoery rates. Now its hard to find in inflated rate suggesting 10%. Think they'll figure it out before long?
2006-12-13 18:32:14 · 9 answers · asked by Meatball ;) 2 in Social Science ➔ Psychology
Probably not. The reduction is primarily due to the oldtimers dying off and the newbees not understanding the program as it was meant to be. I lost interest in the groups because of those not trying to understand and those misinterperting the steps and traditions and acting as if they're interpertation is final, without reading the full eplanations of each as the program presents. They lost me and I was a fairly long time attender, and chairman.
2006-12-13 18:46:15 · answer #1 · answered by Anonymous · 1⤊ 0⤋
Not if it has worked for them nor those who find solace in being told what to do by others. I found NA to be supportive for the few months I attended but that was more to do with the group of very friendly people rather than "the programme". As both an atheist and someone who prefers to take personal responsibility for my choices I have found cognitive behaviour therapy very helpful because it taught me explicitly that thoughts drive feelings and behaviour - not the other way round. 12 step thinking is way too culty for my liking but if it helps some people then ipso facto some people recover. I've heard that the recovery rate is actually 3% but as I don't know who collected this data or how, let alone where it was published I'll take that figure with a very large pinch of salt. By the way I have not used drugs for 3 1/2 yrs and not smoked cigarettes for 2. I no longer define myself as an addict and have absolutely no wish to going back to using substances to control my feelings or as a very. very, poor solution to any problems I might encounter. I have learnt alternative and far more effective coping skills and that is what was needed.
2006-12-13 18:51:49 · answer #2 · answered by kittyfreek 5 · 0⤊ 0⤋
I believe the politically correct argument, 'alcohol is a disease', has contributed to the problem. We do not encourage values and willpower anymore. I am not trying to judge but alcohol advertising is very glamourised. It used to be that you sat down and had three glasses of wine with dinner, or maybe went for a couple of beers at the pub.
Getting drunk was for holidays and being an unpleasant, agitated drunk ready to vomit or pass out was taboo.
With a lot of young people, drinking till you pass out is idealized. People figure it is a good medicine to turn to after drug rehab. Smoking also goes with drinking. Sometimes, you have to give on up to get on with life as well as the other at the same time. What does this have to do with AA? A lot. People aren't encouraged to go. I think tough love and interventions work. I think talking to people works. We have to do more about it, like MADD has done about drunk driving.
2006-12-13 18:50:30 · answer #3 · answered by Anonymous · 0⤊ 0⤋
People believe that AA used to have such great numbers, but it just isn't so. Bill Wilson, speaking at Dr. Bob Smith's memorial service, told how they "cherry-picked" the people to include in their numbers.
"You haven't any conception these days of how much failure we had. How you had to cull over hundreds of these drunks to get a handful to take the bait."
http://www.aaprimarypurpose.org/cofounders.htm
Ol' Bill later said he figured about 5% was accurate.
AA has a 5% success rate today. So does "spontaneous remission". People just decide to quit drinking and do it.
75% is a pipe dream.
2006-12-15 17:28:19 · answer #4 · answered by raysny 7 · 0⤊ 0⤋
With AA, NA or any similar types of addiction, no one is certain of the number of people who stay clean or not. People lie about being clean, or some who are clean fall by the wayside. No one in individual meetings really keeps tabs on who is sober, or fallen off the wagon. Their only purpose is to help. AA and NA have spread so much it becomes difficult to get accurate numbers. Perhaps they take certain groups who really keep tabs and take a sample survey of these groups to calculate the national stats. But any addiction is difficult to overcome that is the true answer why numbers have dropped.
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2016-12-30 09:35:53 · answer #6 · answered by santolucito 3 · 0⤊ 0⤋
If AA is able to help a few people from a life of active alcoholism it is a success. Numbers are just that numbers. I for one do not see how it can help but it does. So let the numbers be inflated. if it saves one persons life it is worth participation.
2006-12-13 21:42:56 · answer #7 · answered by Wat Da Hell 5 · 0⤊ 2⤋
I don't think they want to find out. They're true to their 12 steps.
AA is a short term treatment on a voluntary basis.
If you do not learn life and social skills, you'll have a high chance of relapsing.
If you put an addict into an environment where that drug is available, and lacking skills, you'll do that drug again.
2006-12-13 18:51:20 · answer #8 · answered by joruaishiteru 2 · 1⤊ 0⤋
no
2006-12-13 18:33:39 · answer #9 · answered by ? 7 · 0⤊ 2⤋