Lay Ceramic Tile Over Peel and Stick Vinyl?

Question

I am about to tile my bathroom. Have about 100 square feet to do. The builder (5 years ago) put down a decent looking peel and stick tile, but tastes change. Bought the ceramic tile I want, and started to "try" to get the peel and stick up. It has notched trowel marks under the few square inches I did get up, so apparently, it was glued down. It just breaks off in small peices. The plywood sub floor is very solid. What are thoughts on laying over existing surface
and, mastic or thinset, if I choose to lay over. I feel like I can "etch" the surface and clean it to accept mastic. Any help is appreciated.
Thanx

Answer 1

Rip up the peel and stick before putting anything down.

Do not put ceramic tile over wood subfloor. I know that some reputable installers used to do this, but many of them have stopped because complications often arise. Ceramic tile is best laid over cement subfloor.

Why not just install roll linoluem? It's easy to install, and easy to take up when you want a change.

Answer 2

Peel And Stick Ceramic Tile

Answer 3

It is hard enough to lay down ceramic once without having to do it twice, so get out a good scraper, & pull up the peel & stick. Even if you put some dents in the subfloor, it won't hurt as long as you take off the rough spots.
But usually the subfloor for vinyl tile is only about 1/4" . For ceramic you will need it to be 7/8" minimum, & I recommend screwing it down,not just nailed. When ever I do a ceramic florr to replace an original vinyl floor I almost always end up pulling up the 1/4" plywood so I can lay down the new 7/8" plywood. I find out what thickness the plywood is 1st, so at least I can save myself the agravation of scraping off the vinyl tiles because they will go with the old subfloor when I rip it up.
Don't worry if your bathroom floor ends up higher than the original floor. You can get a transition piece to put at the door threshold so people don't trip on the new floors edge.
Enjoy your new ceramic floor.

Answer 4

No you can not lay ceramic tile over vinyl and have it come out right.
To get the old vinyl up go to Home Depot ot a good hardware store and get, I can't remember what the tool is actually called but, a tool that looks like a wide very sturdy putty knife on the end of a long handle.
This is what they use to pry up vinyl tiles adhered with glue.
You could also try a heat gun but be very careful they produce intense heat so don't burn yourself and wear gloves.
Ask the people at the tile store how to remove the residual glue. Probably sanding or some solvent.
Then prep the surface according to the manufacturer of the tile.

Answer 5

Tile Over Vinyl

Answer 6

In the unlikely event it is one of those hexagonal white tile floor without grout, maybe you could. Even then, the pattern would probably show through after a while. Any tile with grout lines is riddiculous altogether. The easiest way to get a good job is to lay OSB or plywood under the tiles. But this would raise the floor. If there is a good ceramic tile floor, why bother with cheap stick on tiles? But if the ceramic is a mess then you would have to at least patch it with patching cement, which is a lot of work. I would see about restoring the ceramic floor, or else tear it all up--a LOT of work & mess to dispose of.

Answer 7

Pull the old vinyl. If you try to cement ceramic over vinyl it is the same as putting glue in a glass jar and expecting it to dry. It will but it will dry badly and take a long time. The mastic for tile needs to asorb into the backboard for a tight fit.
When you are done withthe tile and it has set up. Tap each tile witht ehwooden handle of the trowell - if there is a hollow sound the mastic did not set up correctly, pull that tile and reset before grouting.

Answer 8

To remove the peal and stick tile get a heat gun and a painter 3 in 1 puddy knife. Heat up the tile and it will come right up. You should then put down at least 1/4 inch concrete board (any brand, durock, wonderboard, ect..) on top of a morter base and then screw it in the the sub-floor. The concrete board is used to reduce the chance of you grout (or tile) cracking due to expansion and contraction of the wood. Lay the tile on the floor using a thinset morter with a latex additive (comes in a dry bag premixed in both gray and white if you care?) don't use mastic it drys too slow. You should be able to grout the next day with thinset, usually takes 2 days for mastic.

Answer 9

you do not have to remove the peel and stick. install a tile backer board 1/4" thick over the peel and stick or vct whatever the case may be.The 1/2 inch it would apear that most are talking about is for vertical surfaces in place of sheet rock behind tile. Be sure that you follow the shedule for attatching the tile backer.

Answer 10

The only way you can get the ceramic tiles to stick permanently is to put 1/2 inch cement sheet,you can buy them at Lowe or Home depot,they are attached with wall board screws,and you can lay the tiles with cement adesive and fill the edges with grout.