Confused on gay marriage..?

Question

All these gay people want to get married, they think religion should not be a factor in them not being allowed to get married. Is everyone blind to the fact that marriage IS a religious thing, from the bible? What am I missing? They don't want a civil union, which is non religious at all, they want a marriage which is religious and say religion shouldn't play a part in them not being able to do it.

To me that sounds so stupid, I can't even think of an example to demonstrate that stupidity.

To me its as stupid as going to college studying electronics but you want a degree as a medical doctor.

Marriage is religious, and the conditions for it are a MALE and a FEMALE become a union. So gay people need to invent a new title for it, Garriage, homoriage.

Answer 1

Confused on gay marriage..? Oh, I get it....Another Oxymoron!
Seriously, I have nothing against gays wanting to be with gays, living together, and whatever else they want to do, but forcing their way into a sacred religious institution such as marriage is going a bit too far. My Catholic faith & religion is a private matter, not open to scrutiny by the state, gays, or anyone else. The Vatican has made it's position on gay marriage very clear and I understand my faith to be very rigid and demanding, but even most Catholics do not know their religion and are therefore unable to defend it properly.

Civil Union satisfies all the same privileges afforded to traditional heterosexual union and/or married couples, but doesn't intrude into the sanctity of Holy Matrimony that would otherwise be defiled by the type of marriage gays are demanding. But, then that's just me exercising MY First Ammendment rights.......Thank you for asking!

Answer 2

Talk about amazing stupidity - are you blind to the fact that marriage is a civil contract and is only deemed religious if a couple gets married in a church or by a preacher/minister/priest, etc.? You can go get married in your local church, but if you don't register it with the state you are only married in your God's eyes, not in the eyes of the state. Millions of people get married in this country every year, quite legally, without the benefit of church or religion. Civil unions are nothing but a bandaid. We've already learned that separate but equal doesn't work in this country. Those civil unions do not come with all of the benefits of civil marriage.

The answer is very simple, if you don't like it, then don't frigging marry someone of the same sex! Did your life just fall to pieces because thousands of gay couples have legally married in the State of Massachusetts? Did your religion become less meaningful? Did God strike down MA and somehow we all missed that? Why on earth do any of you people think you have any right to preach to the rest of us about religion? Please.

Answer 3

Marriage is something supported by the government. Period. You need not be religious to get married, you can be atheist, muslim, Christian, or any religion. All you need is a license from the GOVERNMENT not the CHURCH.

It is not a religious thing unless you choose to make it into one. To offer anything less than equal protection under the law, makes it discrimination. People get married everyday outside of churches, should those marriages be stopped because they didn't do it in a church?

Would you have it be that only those certain churches or faiths can perform marriages? How many would be discriminated against if you allowed only Catholics to marry? Would you consider it fair if they only people who could marry were Jehovah's Witnesses? Of course you would say it was unfair and discriminatory.

When is the marriage of 2 people who love each other illegal? When they are the same sex. This is discrimination pure and simple.

Answer 4

Well, marriage was a religious thing until the gov't butted it's ugly head into love and spirituality.

We don't need gay marriage, we need to remove gov't from marriage so that anyone can decide what they want marriage or union to be.

Why should married people have more rights than people who are dating or even single people? These are all problems that have developed from the gov't getting into relationships, love and spirituality. The solution isn't putting further confines on gay relationships, it's REMOVE the idea of gov't sanctioned marriage completely so if someone wants to marry a guy, girl, dog or car they can and it can have any meaning they choose.

If this were the case then there would never be another issue with marriage again. Unlike with gay marriage where in the future polygamy and group marriage will be an issue, as well as people who choose to be unwed with partners.

99% of these people are complete morons. They ACCEPT BLINDLY the fact that they have to ask the gov't for permission to marry, love, unionize, commit. Why do you accept the GOV'T into your relationships? RETARDS.

Don't you get that if you have to ask permission to begin with you are NOT FREE?!

Answer 5

First :
Marriage didn't originate as religious, but religions took over the word and made it religious. Marriage as an institution developed from rape as a practice. Rape, originally defined as abduction, became marriage by capture. Marriage meant the taking was to extend in time, to be not only use of but possession of, or ownership" (Dworkin).

Second:
Enacted in 1868, the 14th amendment contains both the Equal Protection Clause and the Due Process Clause (Grove). They both target the discrimination in the application of the law, though the Equal Protection Clause targets the state governments and the Due Process Clause targets the federal government (“Due”). The clauses do not try to provide absolute equality between the discriminating and the discriminated, rather they ensure equal application of the law for both groups (Grove). “In other words, the laws of a state must treat an individual in the same manner as others in similar conditions and circumstances” (Grove).
Two people meet, fall in love, and eventually decide to make a lifelong commitment to each other. Whether those to two people are of the same sex or of the opposite sex from one another, their situation is undeniably very much the same. The constitution would then require that the state and federal governments treat the couple as it would any other couple in these conditions, and grant them an official marriage license. To do otherwise would be a direct offense of one of the most important civil rights amendments in U.S. history.

Third:
Separation of church and state requires the law to abide to the rights of all it's citizens and not the whims of the religious.
Fourth:
Civil unions generally are meant to grant a homosexual couple the same rights and benefits that a married couple would receive from the government, bringing new meaning to the term “separate but equal.” However many activists are still not content, arguing that the aftermath of the Plessy vs. Brown ruling, which ordered that blacks were to be treated equally but live separately, proved to the nation that separate but equal is not equal (Robinson).

Answer 6

the source of this problem, like the source of almost every other problem, is too much government intervention. marriage is not just a religious ceremony anymore, it is also a legally binding contract.

married people get certain benefits that unwed couples do not have, like hospital visitation rights, and, most importantly, tax breaks.

personally, i don't subscribe to any religion, and therefore, i do not want to get married. i'm perfectly happy being being in a committed relationship without a legally binding contract. the only possible reason i would want to get married in the future would be if i want kids. there is not a lawyer alive that can draw up a custody contract as secure as being married, and the thought of one of my girlfriend dying and one of her relatives going crazy and taking the kids away from me, scares the hell out of me.

so yes, because it is a government contract, homosexuals should be allowed to marry each other, if for no other reason than they pay taxes. but ideally, government should have absolutely no involvement in marriage and it should be a strictly religious.

Answer 7

Marriage is only a "religious thing" if it happens in a religious setting with a religious leader presiding over the ceremony.

Now, since you're confused, is the problem that you want to marry a gay person in a "gay marriage"?

Answer 8

Just because someone is gay, doesn't mean they aren't spiritual and want to express their love and devotion to their partner.
God gave us all freedom of choice.
How do you justify saying "they think religion should not be a factor..."? Who said that and how can you possibly say they all think alike...
You said "I can't think of an example to demonstrate that stupidity"... I can... lumping everyone who is gay into one. They are all individuals, who think differently. There are Gay people who are Christian, Jewish, atheist, and everything in between.
I see nothing wrong with letting gay people be married just like straight people are.
They should have the same rights and protections we do!
Just FYI, I am a straight christian female.

Answer 9

Yes, you are confused. Marriage is a civil contract as well as a religious ceremony. It confers more rights than civil union and the religious ceremony is an additional choice.

Answer 10

The practice of homosexuality is destructive to the human soul and God gave His warnings about this in the Bible. Supporting gay marriage is a sin because it means to support homosexuality.

Iniquities (sinful tendencies) pass down the generation line if they are not removed by the Blood of the Lord Jesus. Homosexuality is caused by iniquity and the Blood of Jesus cleanses the iniquities of all who accept Him as their Saviour.

After a person accepts the Lord Jesus as their Saviour, they are transformed and made a new creature in Christ (2 Corinthians 5:17). So the gay person would be changed and so would the alcoholic, liar, drug addict, fornicator etc. It's the power of the Blood of Christ and the Holy Spirit in the believer that brings about this transformation.

REDEMPTION BY GRACE THROUGH FAITH

Because mankind is incapable of meeting God’s standard of perfection necessary to abide in God’s presence (Romans 3:19-20,23), God sent His Son Jesus Christ to pay the total debt for the believer’s sins and mercifully credits to his account Christ’s righteousness (Romans 3:21-28,5:1-11; 2 Corinthians 5:18-21). Jesus’ gracious act of atonement was complete and covers all sin (Colossians 2:13-14; 1 John 1:9). Salvation is not based on good deeds but according to the mercy of God (Titus 3:4-5). Believers are justified by faith; it is a gift by God’s grace (Romans 4:3-8; Ephesians 2:8-9). A true, living faith will result in a desire to live a holy, loving life of good works (Ephesians 2:10; Galatians 5:6; James 2:14-26), but failure to be absolutely successful at righteous living does not negate the believer’s justified status.

If you sincerely say this prayer, your sins will be washed away, you will be redeemed to God, be saved from eternal torment and inherit the Kingdom of God:

"Dear Jesus,

I am a sinner.
I repent of my sins.
Please forgive me and save me by your shed blood;
come into my heart.
I want to receive you as my own personal Lord and Savior.

Amen"