Gay Boyscout Leaders?

Question

my brother and i are having a debate about if its ok .He thinks its wrong and i dont . Morally why. And legally why or why not.
I dont think it has anything to do with a boyscout leaders ability to do thier job. He belives that it dosn't make logical since for homosexual males to be appointed as the most fit role models, mentoring young boys into men.

what do you think.?

Answer 1

I think you're right. It's ridiculous to think that who a person is attracted to could affect their ability to be a good mentor. Morally, gay men are no less able to be good Boy Scout leaders than straight men. After all, we don't say that straight men should not be teachers because they are attracted to women and they teach girls, or that straight women should not be teachers because they are attracted to men and they teach boys. That would be silly. Legally, there's no good reason why gay men shouldn't be role models for boys either. Being gay has nothing to do with being a role model- in fact, a gay person might be an especially good role model because they are open minded and understanding of differences, and able to help out kids who are having trouble fitting in, because they have experienced it themselves.

Answer 2

I am from a scouting family. My grandfather was a scoutmaster as were all 3 of his sons. My father formed an early Explorer post.

As a boy I became an Eagle Scout and later attended Scout Leader School where I was certified as a professional and ran programs at Summer Camps. After college I volunteered with different troops and camps to certify merit badges and advise on Eagle projects.

Then the whole BS about removing gay leaders came into the media's attention.

While my local Boy Scout Council wanted me to stay on I felt that I couldn't honestly remain active in light of this bigoted policy.

It saddens me that I can't give back to this group that meant so much to me and truly helped shape who I am today.

Answer 3

Morally I agree with the above posters. However, legally, the boy scouts are a non-profit private group and as such have certain rights when it comes to who they accept into their group; they can say "gays can't come in" legally, essentially. Changing that would in theory impede on their right as a private organization; it'd also be a slippery slope because, once one private organization is changed, who's to say you can't change the catholic church or other religious organizations. While personally I don't see a problem with a gay priest, the people in charge do, and...you dont want to get in a huge battle with them on their own turf. It'll be changed eventually, I have no doubt, as they're gradually toning down the gay hate over the generations; but for now it'd just set the whole movement back as they'd see it as part of "our agenda "to corrupt everyone morally.

Answer 4

they opt to have a son in scouts or on the least a son who went by scouts and is now older. in the different case at the same time as they could paintings on the nationwide workforce, there probable no reason to paintings with an area troop. it really is only extraordinary for any guy gay or instantly whose by no skill had a baby in scouts to bounce in like that. nicely, perchance if the troop has a scarcity of volunteer dads which prevents them from taking area in common boyscout activities. if so i'd savour the guy volunteering because scouts is fantastic. the completed gay situation - i could not care a lot less. I really have familiar sufficient gay adult males to comprehend they're only as healthy and to blame as me or the different heterosexual guy,

Answer 5

My troop had a bi guy, an atheist, and a transsexual bisexual and we didn't have any problems. In fact, those individuals kept things going. Having a gay scout master is no bigger risk than using a babysitter without a full background check and lie detector test. Basically what's going on is that one of the requirements to be in boy scouts is to have A religion. In America, most of those people are Christians, and many of them are homophobic Christians. That's why gay men aren't allowed to become scout masters.

Answer 6

considering over 90% of child molesters are hetero men, i think the most logical choice would be to have only gay male bs leaders. the gay men i know are great mentors and role models. teaching their kids to be gentlemen and ladies, instilling a volunteering type spirit. gays are good people like anyone else. there are some bad nuts in any batch, but hetero has some too.

Answer 7

Honestly I agree with you, but since they insist they are a "moral" or at least a "Christian" group, I'd leave this up to them. They've already decided that they don't want gay scout leaders and that is their perogative. I just get annoyed when they hold their meetings in public schools using public/federal and state dollars to fund their meeting places' utility bills.
If they want to claim to be a private organization that is religiously mototated then stay out of public bulidings and don't expect public funding.
Keep Church and State SEPERATE!

Answer 8

My daughter worked at a girl scout camp for a couple of years. When I went there for any reason, I waited in the office until I could be escorted. Men were not allowed on the camp grounds unescorted during the camp season. I consider that perfectly reasonable. I would never consider filing a discrimination suit against them because they wouldn't allow me to join the organization to live and work with the campers.

A young homosexual man has at least the same sexual urges as as a young heterosexual man, but directed to other young men. It's unrealistic to think that he could be put unsupervised among teen boys and not look at them in a sexual manner, just as you wouldn't expect to put a young heterosexual man unsupervised among teen girls and not have him look at them in a sexual manner. This is entirely natural, which is why we need safeguards.

So why are the Boy Scouts being crucified for recognizing that this risk exists, and setting limits so as to protect the boys? This argument is probably the most damning thing homosexuals could have taken up, because the question naturally follows: why are you so passionate about your need to associate unsupervised (this often happens on outings) among minor teen boys?

Answer 9

A truly professional boy scout leader would not bring his sexuality, gay or straight, into his workplace. There is no such thing as a 'gay' scout leader because scout leaders are not paid to have sex with the boys they guide and supervise. Do you get me?

sexuality in terms of career choice is utterly irrelevant.

Answer 10

Maybe he needs to see that gays can be doting parents too. The Discovery Channel did a lot of those documentaries. Or does he think scout leader is a women's place like PTA?