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As a thought experiment, I wonder how the message behind 'brave new world' would change if instead--the follwing happened: a liberal nazi comes to rule the USA--where it depicts a gay nazi ruler of the 'world institution'

The world institution, is a reformed world order after the 'collapse' which woule have happened in 2018, after a skirmish with China over resources and global economic downturn after a nuclear detonation in Washington with no culprit in sight. In the downturn, there is a shortage of water in the midwest and California due to global warming, causes a cesation from the union, followed by Texas. Thus causing America to become the 'shattered Union.' The one who obtains power in America in the east, is a liberal professor who takes over the goverment and is an extremist, and tries to 'pacify' and 'sterilize' any threat to the already 'shattered union.'

The professor makes it mandatory for tolerance and complete conformity to the norm to become punishable by

2006-12-09 08:36:20 · 4 answers · asked by Anonymous in Politics & Government Other - Politics & Government

either death or extreme humiliation (public ceremonies of rape on TV of those non-conformists)..

The basic tenent of this new 'world institution' is that everybody should be silently 'expected' to give back to society, and frowned and looked down upon if not. The mindset is very socialist, and conformity, it goes, because democracy is based on the majority, the optimum way to preserve freedom...because when the majority goes, then so does freedom.

So in order to maintain democracy, one must conform to the feelings of the masses, almost like a hive mind.

In this new 'totalitarian democracy' the individual is not recognized, and an atmosphere of "screw the individual for the whole presides"---...collectivism takes over...

Thus, when the leader of the glorious "world institution" decides how to engage in warfare..he takes in numbers instead of individuals..

what ends up happening is that the liberal nazi takes over the rest of the USA...and the ideology then

2006-12-09 08:36:38 · update #1

shifts to Europe through the 'allied forces' which came from Europe to pacify the 'shattered union'....In the end of such a plot, the whole world would take the idea of 'collectivism' as a quick recourse to satisfy their problems because

(1) it is justified morally what they could not do otherwhise (kill millions of innocent people under the hood of 'moralism') under the rules of democracy; democracy is about the majority, so majority rules even if an individual must die, for the good of the whole.

thus, suppressing human rights....which would be the irony...the conformity to the 'whole' and the morals of democracy, would be turned upside down...

it would mean the suppression of the individual...for the good of the collective...and justified morally by 'democracy' and its 'the only fair way' to distribute resources or face strife...

so, thus, it gives a moral shield to genocide,etc, etc...that a totalitarian system would not have...

2006-12-09 08:36:44 · update #2

The whole world becomes secularized and varios religions also abolished, going under the name of 'one religion, one mind, one goal' --which is a stripped religion of all the glamour that emphasizes on selflessness, the good of the whole, the necessity to conform, etc.

In the very end the liberal professor is found to be a sick pedophile who engages in bondage. This is found out just after his 'con-memoration' services for 'conformity to political correctness, the world union, world peace, and pacification' ...

just before that he also gets a huge statue of himself on the same scale of the statue of liberty, which is then viewed as a 'failed' symbol toward freedom...for it has too many 'individual' qualities, while the professor was viewed as 'selfless' being and as a symbol of that reflection.

The plot would end with the professor killing himself.

2006-12-09 08:36:54 · update #3

opinions on the implications welcome

2006-12-09 08:37:14 · update #4

There are theories that hitler was gay. There is a flaw in your logic, if nazi's presumably hate all gay people. That does not mean a nazi cannot be gay, he can be gay, and hate himself at the same time.

2006-12-09 08:43:46 · update #5

There are many groups that go under the same logic: double standards...

its called acting one way, being something else in the closet--another word for it is hypocracy, some examples of such groups that are colloquially stereotyped are self hating gays, jewish anti-semites, puritans, etc, etc.

2006-12-09 08:45:31 · update #6

g....that is the irony of it...

could you picture a liberal that as an extremist? Someone that 'enforces' conformity and democratic values on all others....that 'forces' freedom'...

could the tenents of 'freedom' in hard times be distorted to be the 'good for the whole' because the most good for the whole gives the most freedom...This distorts your common perception of liberalism...

that IS the point...

And its not uncommon to have a very extremist liberal. So its not crazy to envision a liberal nazi.....

example: the very liberal socialist party in the United States, IS the nazi party..

so yes, liberalism can be closed minded...when distorted...with nazisms tenents used to 'cleanse' the population...

such as the sterilization schemes? to improove society? In times of economic failure...and an aging population...does it seem far-fetched that they would have a 'welfare program'....that benefits 'the whole' rather than the individual?

sacrificing, by killing

2006-12-09 08:49:12 · update #7

old people....for the good of the 'collective'

do you see the implications? how this ideology would have both nazi and liberal componets? given the repressive and bitter atmosphere of some liberal or insititutional enclaves...its not far fetched that those extreme liberals go hand in hand with repressive ideologies...

i mean, such liberals are the direct decendents of puritans (ideologically wise..)...and puritanism is INHERENTLY, a repressive ideology.....

keep in mind, that during WWII, the first institution to side with the nazis was harvard!! one of the most liberal institutions at the time...

2006-12-09 08:51:39 · update #8

3rd answerer...lol...

no...I guess it would be more appropriate to do the old salem trick for women. raping women is more a humiliation to the person who performs the rapage.

In a liberal nazi state---the men would be raped but before that, probably overpowered by one man...thus--an affront to his ego or manhood--this is something the 'gay' liberal peraquat in power as the character of the plot, would probably be secretly please with...

This would be the repulsive and sick part of the plot of extreme liberalism.

2006-12-09 08:56:11 · update #9

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nazi's aren't liberal at all... hitler hated liberals... and communist in general hate liberals... remember the chinese cultural revolution where they killed all the professors?

you seem to have your poltiical ideas confused...liberals support democracy...they aren't dictators...

2006-12-09 08:43:47 · answer #1 · answered by Anonymous · 2 1

I must be a communist cause i hate liberals too. But Why was Gorbachev embraced by liberals here in The U.S.A.? Communism is liberalism allowed to flourish!!!! G G G G G G G G G G G G G G G G G G G G G G G G G G G G G G G G G G G The circle!!!

2006-12-09 10:42:20 · answer #2 · answered by jamesdperrino 2 · 1 0

Trick Question; Nazis hate gay people, so there couldnt be a gay Nazi

2006-12-09 08:39:25 · answer #3 · answered by I Hate Liberals 4 · 1 0

I guess I would be publicly raped.

2006-12-09 08:44:22 · answer #4 · answered by dakota29575 4 · 0 1

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