For all you Hillary Health Care Voters- Are You Aware of the consequences?

Question

Are you aware that having a free health care system in this country would raise your taxes over 50%

Sorry folks I pay for my health care its only 350.00 a month for my whole family. I dont want no bullshit health care system that will take over 50% of my pay check-

How about you?


NO HILLARY!!!!!!!!!

Well if you don't believe me then hey just take a look at our national debt! America is not so wealthy as you may think.
Here are Countries with Free Health Care as an example
Canada- Income Taxes 48.2%
Sweden- 54%
Germany 54%
Belgium 57%
Korea to 52%


There is no way this country could not give you
free health care without a huge tax increase.

Oh dont forget the sales tax increase you will get like Canada. Canada charges a tax called PST+GST total 15%
on everything you buy

thats why we dont have health care- WHO WANT TO PAY THOSE KIND OF TAXES

About my 350.00 a month family Health Care Plan
Mu husband is a contractor so we have to buy our own health care. We do not get subsidized or any help towards it. Its through Blue Cross Blue Sheild and you can go and get a quote for yourself right on their website if you think I am BS-
https://shopblue.bcbsfl.org/u65_zip2prod.asp?page=U65&ref=IQ

Answer 1

People don't understand or don't want to, that any program a politician dreams up, has a price tag attached to it. You don't get something for nothing. And who do you think pays that??? The working poor, the taxpayer.

I noticed on another thread they talk about the tax breaks, well, it worked for JFK and Ron Reagan. When you put more money into the peoples hands, they spend it and buy stuff. That means, companies ( you know, the ones who hire people and pay them wages, so they can pay their taxes too) put people to work replacing what was bought and these people now pay their taxes.

Again, don't matter if its Medicare, Medicaid or Hillary Care, someone has to pay for it. And if you tax the so called " big Business", they pass the tax on to the people who buy or use their services. Remember when the minimum wage went up, Micky D's and the King raised their prices, imagine that. SO, who paid for the pay raise in minimum wage??? anyone who buys these things paid for it, cause everything went up.

Answer 2

Actually, I did some research on this, comparing the UK and USA. The fact is that the UK provides health care free at point of use to all who need it and does it more cheaply than the USA does. Of course, there are some fancy treatments that you cannot get, which may (note, MAY) get picked up by insurance in the USA. However, one might ask if the fancy treatments and over-priced medicines are really necessary. Yes, I know that drug companies need to make money to put into R&D, but there has to be a better way of managing the situation.

By the way, if you have a family plan at $350 per month, it is being subsidized. Probably by your employer's customers. Maybe even me. So I have lower taxes but pay higher prices at the checkout so you can have affordable health care. I don't particularly care for sen. Clinton, but if she can deliver universal health care it will be worth it.

Answer 3

This is so incorrect it's hilarious.

1: You have to be earning a _substantial_ income to be paying over 50% taxes in Sweden. Taxes for most people are rather lower, they are staggered.

2: These taxes do not only pay for health care. We also have
* free dental care until 18 (subsidised thereafter),
* nearly free childcare from birth, including after school care. (you do pay, it is pro rata on income,but the max any family will pay is ~800kr a month, about $80 dollars. For more as many children as required, after school care is at school, with qualified teachers.)
* Paid maternity _and_ paternity leave, one year, you can divide it between both parents as you wish, and later paid sick leave to care for ill children until they are 8.
* Free schools, including tertiary education.
* Unemployment benefits (based on what you have earned) pensions, and disability. Yes this is partly based on what you have earned, and yes, you have to attend job interviews and/or training (where applicable, obviously not for retirement pensions) to continue to recieve these.
* Subsidised elder care, including home visit nurses for people who want to live on their own but just need a little help (my mother in law does this for a job, she is a qualified midwife who lost her job some years ago, used the free training available to retrain as a geriatric nurse, and now works as a district nurse visiting and checking up on old people who need a little help, but don't want to move to a group home.

There's certainly more, but this has gotten long enough as it is.

Point is, you may not like the socialised system we have in Sweden, but if you're going to argue against it, have your facts straight. I pay for my health care too, it's just indirect, and I don't have to justify to my insurance carrier that I really am sick and it's not a preexisting condition, nor do I have to make sure I am at an 'approved' hospital before requesting treatment.

Answer 4

Right now we have health care for the rich, and bankruptcy for the poor if they wish health care. It is a lie to suggest that what we have now serves anyone but those with considerable assests, and even many of them are vulnerable in a catastrophic health crisis. What we have now is shameful and almost anything would be an improvement in actual care. Go Hillary and all those who will support her idea.

Answer 5

this is rediculous... over 50 percent on top of taxes you pay now... can you site that? that doesn't even make sense...

maybe for those that are taxed in the highest level tax bracket... the extremely wealthy... so that would be like a 5 percent increase...

I would be willing to bet you, the vast majority of America would pay less under Hillary's plan a month than under current health care costs...

and if you added that $350.00 to what you already pay in taxes a month, wouldn't that be well over 50 percent total of your pay or close at least, if that's what you're talking about?

of course you do say "only $350 a month" so maybe you're wealthy?

EDIT: I think all of those countries you listed have many more social programs than the U.S. does... in other words, that is paying for much more than just the healthcare difference...

Answer 6

Interesting bibliography.

Answer 7

You don't wish to live under Hillary's "Glorious People's Revolutionary Government"?

I don't either.

Answer 8

I agree with wiseguywisedude.

Answer 9

Hell thanks to your f****** Bush , and Republicans giving tax breaks to rich, we are paying almost 40% in taxes in New York, Connecticut, Washington D.C. , Wisconsin etc. without any kind of F****** benefits, so if I get something for paying a little more, hell yes, I will go for it....GO HILLARY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!Show those rich neocons...