So the Iraq Study Groups suggest we "talk" to Iran and Syria?

Question

Of course, there are "talks" that could be brief, and could go something like this:

To the Syrian regime, the Americans could say: Alawites are not true Muslims. We know this, and the Sunnis know this, despite your attempts to hide behind that single fatwa from Iran claiming otherwise. The Saudis are prepared to use their money to broadcast through the Arab press, in the Middle East and in London, ably assisted by the Jordanians and the Egyptians, that the Alawites, those non-Muslims, must go. You think you can continue to rule, despite being 12% of the population. You think we will not support a Sunni Muslim effort to depose you. At this point, your behavior is such that we regard you as disposable. But it is not we who will do the disposing. It will be the Ikhwan within Syria. We will publicize your permitting Shi'a missionaries to come from Iran. We will have the Saudis and others display the pictures of Mary that hang in every Alawite village.

Your Alawite generals will get more and more nervous. They do not all wish to be slaughtered -- which is what the real Muslims will do to you. You have a choice. Leave Lebanon alone. Stop helping Iran. Forget about the Golan Heights; you will never get it back. We will give you a free hand in Syria. But that is it. That is more than enough. That, or a Sunni uprising that will not end in a mere palace coup, but in the mass murder of Alawites everywhere. Your choice.

That would be the way to have "talks" with Syria.

And the "talks" with Iran? Something along the same friendly lines. Something like this: Fifty percent of your population is not Persian. There are Kurds. There are Azeris. There are Baluchis. There are Arabs in Khuzistan, where all your oil is located. We are prepared to arm, through Kurdistan, those Kurds.

The mere existence of an independent and American-backed Kurdistan will inspire not only those Kurds, but also those Baluchis and those Arabs and, if we can make a deal with Azerbaijan, possibly even those Azeris as well. The Ottoman Empire dissolved after World War I. What remains of the Persian Empire -- that is, modern Iran -- can dissolve, or be shrunk still further. Could you put down simultaneous revolts among the Kurds, Baluchis, Azeris, and Arabs? You don't think we dare do it? Why not? What do we have to lose? What could you do now that is still worse than what you are already doing? Let's be clear: we are not out to overturn the regime, but we can inflict such damage on your country that others, within, will overturn your regime. And kill the Mullahs in their luxurious homes. Do you want that? Do you want to lose the oil of Khuzistan to the Arabs? We wouldn't dare, you say? Why wouldn't we? Why should we care?

We buy oil from wherever, and we pay the market price to you or to them. What reason do we have for keeping Iran together? Instability should worry us? Why? Why should it?

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Answer 1

Your question is more of a personal rant, but you make a good point. Bush has said repeatedly, over and over and over and over and over again, that he will not talk to any county that in his view supports whatever he deems to be "terrorism". Here is where Bush makes a huge mistake because he does nothing but inflame hatreds and then boxes himself into a corner to the point now where the Iraq Study Group suggests the US talks to what Bush has labelled as "terrorist" countries. The stupidity of Bush's position cannot be overemphasized, and the longer he maintains it the worse things will become.

Bush would never be intelligent enough to give a talk like what you propose, never. If you listen to his speeches you get the drift of the shallowness of his thinking.

ONLY BY TALKING WITH THOSE WHO OPPOSE US can we gain understanding, and by gaining understanding we can find common ground, and by finding common ground we can come to an agreement. Bush flat out refuses to do this.

Answer 2

Bush and Co. will soon talk with Iran and Syria. The early denials will fall by the wayside and the Bush camp will 'prepare' Bush for the showdown. Syria and Iran will have their own agenda and Bush and Co. will have theirs. Contrary to popular belief, Iraq has already talked with Iran and has alerady talked with Syria and many others in the Middle East. Plans are already in the making to bring those in the region together. This is happening because those in the Middle East are very aware of what the U.S is capable of and they are getting prepared. As has been said before, those in the Middle East will never allow the U.S. to control their oil. That is a given. They are not as dumb at they appear to be.

umm and maybe we should let it be known that the Umted States aided Saddam with WMD's long before the invasion.
Fair enough?

umm again. Looks as though many people are bothered by the fact that the Middle Easteners are so very rich. Bothers you doesn't it.

Answer 3

genuinely not! Iran and Syria are the two run by using terrorist regimes. They actual did a very good interest helping with the Israel-Hezbollah disaster, did not they?! besides, we already tried direct U.S. international relatives with Iran interior the 1890s! that's how we've been given the place we at the instant are! In precis: you could not NEGOTIATE WITH TERRORISTS. you will basically inspire greater acts of terror!

Answer 4

Talking from a position of weakness will be ineffectual in accomplishing this task . We have spent 40 plus years with covert operations and plans for takeovers to the point it sickens me to be an American .
We use to stand for something besides making a fast buck .

Answer 5

Well, maybe we should tell the leader of Iran that if they help us with Iraq then we'll give them nukes..NOT! Just following Clinton's lead!

Maybe we will tell Syria we know that they aided and abetted Bin Laden, but we still want your OIL....Foools that we ARE!

...I say dust off some of that Nuke power and get down to business USA!

Answer 6

I'm not sure your suggestion is the best way to start the discussion...
I do think that there is nothing wrong with talking to your enemies -- you don't have to be nice to them, but talking is always a good idea.

Answer 7

We must talk to Syria and Iran, one month after we Bomb the devil out of those savages and then talks will work!1

Answer 8

Yeah - since when did Christians become Muslims?!?

Answer 9

And Bush would respond. 'Well, everyone is entitled to their opinion, and I appreciate it. Uh, muslum extremists are evil, uh, I am not saying your necessarily evil, but you do come from an official evil State. But, uh I see you point, got your message, and I will get back to you....(Dick...dick...quick come here and talk to these guys)

Answer 10

ya the Dem,Iraq study group ,say many stupid things,,,,sounds like a big stupid INFIDEL dream to me...meanwhile more American lives are lost in the mess of B