What do you think it would happen if the CSA won the seccesion war?

Question

Actually they were pretty close to win it lol. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Confederate_States_of_America

Answer 1

- The Confederate States of America would currently be the world's fourth-largest economic power if the Civil War had turned out differently and the rest of history had gone the same.

That's the conclusion of Demographics Daily, an online newsletter for businesses that this week released its analysis of economic data pertaining to Alabama and the other 10 states that seceded from the Union.

G. Scott Thomas, editor of Demographics Daily, said he decided that April, the month the Confederacy fell in 1865, would be a good time to do the economics and demographics equivalent of "alternate history" - an increasingly popular genre of literature that imagines what would have happened if key historical events had gone the other way.

Politics | Forum Thomas conceded that the Confederate States of America, had it prevailed, would likely have had very different economic development than Southern states have had under the Union.

Would slavery have been phased out, and if so, how soon? Would the South have erected tariffs and immigration quotas? Would Disney World have located in Florida, and Dollywood in Tennessee? Would there be unified currency for the U.S. and CSA, and would it be any stronger than the Euro?

These and a thousand other questions can only be speculated about, never answered, said Thomas.

But assuming economic development proceeded the same, the CSA would have had a gross domestic product of $2.6 trillion in 1999. Only three countries would have had a larger GDP - the United States (shortened to 39 states and the District of Columbia), China and Japan. The CSA would have edged out Germany.

In population, the CSA would rank 12th in the world with 84.3 million residents, based on Demographics Daily's analysis of 2000 population statistics. Texas and Florida alone would have counted for almost 37 million people.

The CSA would be more racially diverse than the USA, Thomas said. Non-Hispanic blacks would account for 19 percent of the CSA but only 9 percent of the United States.

"It's a fascinating use of statistics, for sure," said A.J. Strickland, a professor of strategic management at the University of Alabama. "It does point out how far the South has come, and it speaks of the racial diversity in the South."

God Bless You and The Southern People

Answer 2

Texas would probably be an independent country, and California, and maybe even Utah. The Germans might have won world war 1, and Russia would still have Alaska.

There would have been no Spanish American war, and Spain might have regained a lot of old possessions, including Florida.

A large slave revolt would have put an end to any remaining southern states (like in Haiti). It might have become socialist after a while, due to the lack of any established industry and due to economic links with Europe. Or it might have been a kingdom.

Would there be a Panama Canal? Would the Japanese have still played baseball? America's influence might not have been felt.

The Northern states could have fought a war with Canada, to try and expand northward, or they might have rejoined the UK.

Or, maybe there would have been a second war to conquer the south, kind of like the war against Mexico (or the war of 1812).

I don't think the confederacy could have held out against Texas, Utah, Mexico, California, the North, European powers and disgruntled slaves for all that long.

Answer 3

If this had come about because the Democrats won the mid-term election, rather than because of, say, British intervention, slavery would have persisted probably to around the turn of the century, westward expansion would have been slowed and contentious, and neither of the two countries would have been strong enough to become major powers internationally. The Monroe doctrine may not have held. Spain's rotting position would have held a bit longer, and who knows whose colony Cuba would be until the CSA annexed the new state after the end of the Great European War. The European powers would have fought themselves to bloody oblivion 1914-1921, leaving their colonies in the Pacific and Africa in total chaos, and no politically intact rivals to check the Bolsheviks, so it would be the middle of the twenty-first century before the Greater European Soviet (or make up your own name) collapsed into another period of complete chaos. And of course technologically the world now would be about where it was in 1940. India, having gained independence in the mid-twenties, would have managed its own course, not falling under Soviet hegemony, and with the shaky economy of the G.E.S. , and after recovering from the costs of its civil war in which the portion we know as Pakistan was "ethnically cleansed," is now an aggressive and expanding power in that region. And Japan, with control of Manchuria, Indochina, Korea, the Phillipines, and Indonesia, continues periodic expansions and setbacks in China.

Answer 4

Some blacks would have participated in the southern economy. The cotton gin had been invented in just a few years after the civil war. Thus, vastly reducing the need for mass labor to tend to plantation crops. The majority of slaves probably would have been sent back to Africa as had been previousy done to the demise of the slaves. The stigma and psychic of their ancestors having been slaves has not been able to be overcome by blacks even into the present. Politicians have made the race issue a tool to be used to satisfy their political agendas. I believe that because of foreign invasion by other nations, the North and the South would have united to defeat the invaders.

Answer 5

Even assuming a peace accord between the USA and CSA it is highly likely that conflict would have continued as they competed for western territories to join one or the other. There would have been continued friction between the two nations as slaves would continue to escape into the north, much as people fled from behind the Iron Curtain in the 20th century. Not having the benefit of the Fugitive Slave Act, there would be frequent clashes along the border.
Foreign recognition of the CSA would likely lead to friction between the USA and european countries.
It is likely that the entire history of the 20th century would be different and not for the better.

Answer 6

Ist I don't think that the Confederacy was as close to winning "the late unpleasantness" as you think. By the end of the first year of the war the South had lost it's greatest port, New Orleans , most of the Mississippi Valley and most of the State of Tennessee, The Atlantic Coast was occupied in Three places, Hatteras Sound, Port Royal and Key West and the Military ,overall was showing and inability to work together. If it hadn't been for Jackson they South would have lost the Shenandoah Valley also.

Had there been a victory by the South the south would have done one of two (2) Things; 1) it would have become more Federal in it's government. The Colonies in 1785 learned that there had to be a strong central authority for the colonies to work. As late as 1864 The Confederacy was unable to get governors of states to release militias for the Confederate Field Armies because of the fear of Slave rebellions and Union Invasions. 2) the South would have Broken up into sub units like Texas would have been an independent Country;The Deep South, Georgia, Florida, Alabama, Mississippi, South Carolina and Louisiana, would be another and the rest, North Carolina, Virginia, the rump of Tennessee as a third country . Also Utah would have gone it's separate way and with it the Far West. the lose of the precious metals would have bankrupted the North. The world would be totally different more like Turtledove's Vision in his books of the "Great War Series.

Answer 7

There would have been two countries. The south would have waited a bit longer to see the problems of slavery, only due to the lack of industrialization. Eventually they would have freed their problem. I also believe both countries would be allies today.

Answer 8

They did not win and get over it. Life is full of things to do besides dwell on the past and the what ifs? After all if you were proving that you are superior you need to do a lot of work with yourself first right? No offense but the Chinese culture out weighs us in population and in many ways as well. So I personally not that is matters to you but I believe a little less racism remarks will do you much more good than bad.

Answer 9

Mexico would probably have invaded and forced us into the 3rd world status they now occupy.

Answer 10

They would have become a 3rd world country dominated by British commercial interists like China and India.