Why keep refering 4x4 vehicles as gas guzzlers, mine is a 1400cc which uses less gas than a Ford mondeo!!?

Question

My fiat Panda 4x4 is fuel efficient LEAVE ME ALONE LIVINSTONE

Sorry I meant 'RED KEN'

mine is a 4x4 REAL CAR and during snow periods it leaves all the big cars stuck in the snow.
So why keep refering to 4x4 as gas guzzlers why not use the term LARGE VEHICLES

mr Snooksvil

Read my question before you slag me off it was not about duty paid !!
And RED KEN is a commy

Answer 1

As I have said before, an old type Mini at 70 burns the same amount of fuel as a Jag. Go work it out.

Answer 2

"Gas Guzzlers" is a throwback term from the gas crises in the 70's. At the time it generally referred to any vehicle that got only single digit gas milages or low 10's. This meant a few 4 cylinders, most 6 cylinders and all 8 cylinders feel into this classification. The main reason for the lousy milage is because the induction type of 90% of vehicles in the 70' was carburation. Now things are different. Every single new vehicle on the road today is fuel injected in some form or another. Also because of better manufacturing techniques and computer controls, the engines produce 2 or even 3 times more power than the of same size engines from the 70's. So the question becomes 'Who defines what is a gas guzzler?' Do you define it by It's milage? Do you define it by the power the engine devlops versus the weight of the vehicle? Do you define it by the amount of power it put out versus the amount it actually uses? Do you define it by the amount of pollution it puts out? If you say it's milage, is a car with a 4L engine considered the same as a pickup with a 4L engine, or a city bus with a 4L engine (Fuel types not withstanding)? You can build a car that gets 100mpg but it does 0 to 60 in 45 seconds. The enviromentalist will automatically say they would buy it until they try it (try it in your car). If you're trying to save the enviroment go after the ones who are belching out the toxic crud from the tail pipes. But leave the ones that are filling up with over 100L a week. Guys like that are good for the economy.

Answer 3

I think when people talk about 4x4s generally they mean the big land / range rovers that cost about £60 to fill and do less than 250 miles! I agree though, there are a lot of other cars out there that don't generally get slated for being "gas guzzlers" such as a lot of the big executive cars out there.

Answer 4

We have 3 kids (all in car seats) so have an MPV with a modern HDi engine, it returns a better MPG (33mpg avg) than my Rover 75 (avg 20mpg) yet costs the same to tax. It is included in the so called "gas guzzler" bracket, how fair is that.

what does Ken think of the lexus rx450h 4X4. uses the same tree hugging petrol / electric hybrid system as the prius which Ken loves. see Ken not all 4X4s burn a hole in the ozone layer as they drive along

i would like to suggest (if I may, without the fear of a violation) suggest that Mr Livingstone sticks his policy in a small dark and warm hole.

Answer 5

Yours isn' a true 4x4 it's just a four wheel drive made to look like an off road car.. when people refer to gas guzzlers they are refering to real 4x4 cars -

HEAVY snow in central London.. get real...maybe there is a layer of snow for one day a year.. but nothing that last longer than 6 hours

Answer 6

most are gas guzzlers,yours is not realy the kind of vehicle they are refering to but am sure you know that.My ozzy relatives thought it was a hoot the number of 4x4s on our roads.To them they are a work vehicle for people who live in the sticks.They had to ask"Where are they all going"? To them it's like owning a tractor and not being a farmer.

Answer 7

I have a Suzuki Grand Vitata 2.0 TD, I do 38mpg. I don't think that is exactly gas guzzling

Answer 8

Well in that case you won't be hit by the increase in the Congestion Charge which is for cat. G and above.. Please do your research before sl&gging off Mayor Ken.

Answer 9

Yours is not a Chelsea tractor, more a Brixton plough.

Answer 10

they are referring to land rovers and vehicles like them