Why is it that so many American hip hop artists...?

Question

...freely admit to liking Phil Collins, to the extent of sampling his music for their own tracks, while so many ''ordinary" people refuse to admit they ever listen to him? I'm talking about bling artists who are obsessed with looking cool. Phil Collins is, according to the majority of the UK, the epitome of ''anti-cool''. People must like the guy secretly though, as all his albums have very high sales!

At this point I will stand up and declare my problem to the Yahoo Answers group: my name is wildamberhoney, and I'm a Phil Collins fan. (D'ya think there's a 12step program I can follow to cure me?)

Opinions please!

For those who scoff: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wgLA_E0yfbw Listen to this... if it doesn't touch you, you're made of stone!

Same for these: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6JeMyII07dA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4r-u5opwLi0

Ok, here's the beginning of the list: I'll add more as I find 'em. Some sampled, some just covered by urban/hip hop artists. They're not all American!

2001 Tracks:
'Prelude' Ray J, the first single,
'Another Day In Paradise' Brandy & Ray J 'Sussudio' Ol' Dirty Bastard,
'Something Happened On The Way To Heaven' Deborah Cox
'This Must Be Love' Dane Bowers (from Another Level) feat.
Kelis, 'In The Air Tonight'
Lil Kim feat. Phil Collins, 'Can't Turn Back The Years'
Joe, 'One More Night'
Changing Faces, 'Easy Lover' Coko (from SWV),
'I Don't Care Anymore' Kelis,
'Do You Remember' Deberah Morgan,
'Against All Odds' Montell Jordan, also Mariah Scary (eew)
'All Of My Life' TQ,
'I Wish It Would Rain Down' Brian McKnight 'Take Me Home' Malik Pendleton.

Akon: "I love Phil Collins. "In The Air Tonight" is an incredible song. I hope to work with Phil. He's got an amazing vocal tone."

Eminem was yapping on about how he likes Collins too, a few years back... I remember reading this in an interview with him, when someone asked him about his mentioning 'In The Air Tonight' in 'Stan'.

Gym Class Heroes - "Rightly recognized as true pioneers of live hip-hop, the Geneva, NY-based band has won popular and critical acclaim for kicking out genre-busting jams that seamlessly meld rap, rock, R&B... the band took inspiration from an array of dissimilar artists, spanning dark sonic provocateursInterpol and Radiohead to pop power balladeers like Phil Collins.
http://www.cdfuse.com/gymclassheroes

TLC used to mention that they liked his stuff.
He worked with Pharrell Williams.

And finally...
"All the hot names in urban music have gathered to cover... Phil Collins! Surprising as it might seem, Collins' recordings are among the most sampled works in the R&B / hip-hip world".

I rest my case.

Well. That seemed to shut everybody up!! ;-)

Answer 1

People like Phil because he is short ,bald, middle age + and not that good lookin'. He is a goofball, people like that .He is the opposite of what it seems to take to be a rocker. He is a talented musician but you have got to admit his music is a little lame.
He is the Dustin Hoffman of the rock world. Dustin Hoffman hit it big in the Graduate when the standard heart throb was Troy Donahue. Do you know many people who look like Troy did? People secretly rooted for Dustin to make it big. Phil is the underdog. His charm is that he is under rated as a success. Shhh! you might blow his cover.

Answer 2

Because hip-hop artists wait until they think an artist has been forgotten and then they plagiarise their work.
There's no talent in programming a machine to provide you with a drum loop, but there is when it comes to writing music.
I think it shows them up as unmusical and unimaginative, and they obviously spend time in 2nd hand record stores, listening to records to find good chord changes to nick.
I could write a few words that rhyme, but could I write a song?
Phil Collins is an extremely respected musician, but his records don't sell well.
Neither do Paul McCartney's, Peter Gabriel's, Kraftwerk's, Pet Shop Boys, Kate Bush, Paul Simon, and all the other artists who are at the forefront of innovation, both musically and visually.
Don't forget it was Kraftwerk who started the whole hip - hop scene off, with their sparse electronic beats, and their influence is still on every electronic dance record nearly 30 years later. When Africaa Bambata sampled Trans-Euro Express, and the whole dance revolution took off (with ,as well, 80's synthesiser bands like Human League, Depeche Mode, New Order),
they just sat back and watched it all happen.
And they were four white, po-faced, influential, reclusive blokes from Dusseldorf.
Even today in hip-hop you hear the sounds they created in their Computer World, Electric Cafe, Trans-Europe Express, The Mix etc. albums
There is nothing original about hip-hop other than the shouting and posturing about experiences in 'The Ghetto'
The rest of it has always been taken from someone else, whether it be Phil Collins, Sting, Dido, Annie Lennox, whatever. In fact, anyone that could play an instument.
I've never seen a hip-hop artist play a musical instrument. Have you?

Answer 3

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Answer 4

Phil Collins is a very godd musician and has a wonderful way with words. I personally think he is great. And his stuff is generally very unique.

Answer 5

Because they are too popular.
Like McDonald Every where over the world.
But do people like it? Apparently NO

Answer 6

What rappers have sampled him? Other than bone thugs and harmony. The guy is a ****...and you wonder why he is anti-cool?

check out this anti-cool sweater
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oosc8d3pGhM

But these people you mention are afterall american.

Answer 7

who sampled phil collins other then bone-thugz-n-harmony?

Answer 8

u wanta mi opinion ese?
u giva me a quarta 1st ok

Answer 9

lol nice one, good point well made