Can you fight the political facts?

Question

Ok, many in america are so angry at the current administration, but dont the facts speak for themselves?

An example of a few:

1. Economy continues to prosper.
2. Stock market (Dow) at record highs.
3. Home Ownership at all time highs.
4. Unemployment at all time lows.
5. No terrorist attacks on US soil since we took the fight to them.
6. Nationwide, crime statistics are down double didgets over the past 5 years.

I mean, seriously, what more could anyone really ask for? How can one dispute that these facts are not the truth?

Answer 1

The facts speak for themselves.

I am not a fan of this administration even though I am a Republican. I think parts of it has given republicans and Americans bad names. I don't advocate the democrats as they simply threw it all out there to soil the administration at all costs and also embarrased the United States and assisted the enemy on a morale level.

But you are right, the facts speak for themselves. Even in dissaray, the republicans have done a lot...


Edit -

Cheri b, Why in the hell would I take your UK link as fact for the United States?? Get a grip, seriously.

Answer 2

1. How does it prosper? Real income has been down
each of the last 5 years. College tuition has doubled.
Health costs have doubled. The Nat. debt has nearly
doubled. We paid half a trillion on interest alone in '06
2. so what if DOW is at record high. Only 10% of
Americans own 80% of all the stock. How does that
benefit anyone other than those 10%?
3. Foreclosures on home mortgages has set a number of
records in the las 5-6 years.
4. Unemployment is not at an all time low. It is at an all
time low for the Bush Administration.
5. No terrorist attacks in the last 5 years. What does
that mean? It was 6 years prior to 9-11 when we had
another terrorist attack. 6 years, not 5. and by the
way, that terrorist attack was by a registered Republ.
6. crime statistics are not down in double digits...

seriously, there is more I could ask for. I just disputed your so called facts with truths.

Answer 3

The value of the dollar is at it's lowest in 3 years, cyclical unemployment is higher now than it's been in the past 2 years of the administration. The stock market is plummeting due to the value of the dollar raising the price of oil yet again, and the housing market has gone bust. No terrorist attacks in 5 years is not uncommon, as far as I believe the last major attack before 2001 was the 1993 WTC bombing. Thousands of American soldiers dead in Iraq, a country now in the midst of a civil war. The facts do speak for themselves, you're right about that. We can't blame all of our problems, and our good fortune on the administration but i'd say overall Bush will go down as one of the top 5 worst presidents in history, and most definitely the worst president to ever serve 2 terms.

Answer 4

I can

The economy is in the throws of death. Personal debt averages over $10,000 per citizen. The Chinese Wallmart conspiracy has tricked Americans into believing a house full of junk is prosperity. (Zero Debt is prosperity)

The Stock market or DOW is not a representation of American prosperity. It is a indicator of the 30 largest corporations and how much money they are making from open end no bid contracts.

Home ownership is down fewer people per capita own their home than ever in the history of America. Home loans and mortgages are at a all time high. But Americans are in debt up to their ears.

Unemployment is down The lack of good carrier building jobs has declined. Calling unskilled rent a cop jobs a rebirth of employment is a disgrace. The Bush policy has also been to declare normal replacement in the workforce new jobs. If a bus driver retires his replacement is declared a new job. This practice was never used before.. More people than ever have fallen through the cracks of the employment system.

Terrorists attacks. Did you ever consider that Ben Ladin might be finished. He clearly stated the attack was tit for tat retaliation for the US attack on Beirut. (Though I doubt the Jihad is over.)

Crime has been on a steady decline since 1970. Only white collar crime has significantly increased. Clinton signed the Bipartizen Crime bill that put 250K cops on the beat in America. The results from that will continue to be seen for years. Crime reporting is up. I believe this is part of the master plan to terrorize Americans.

Go big Red Go

Answer 5

Number 2: In the days after the election (in which the Democrats won), the Dow was higher that ever. However, please remember that the DJIA is not the ONLY indicator of how this country is doing economically.

Number 5: Completely unfair to have up there. There is NO way to judge that. I could say during Clinton's administration, there was NO terror attack on this country, so Bush is 100% worse at stopping domestic terrorism than Clinton. See? It's all about how you spin it.

Number 6: Hate to break it to you, but political policy really has nothing to do with crime statistics. You can chalk the drops in crime rates up to the ongoing work of governors, mayors, state legislatures, city councils, and most importantly police officers, who the Presidents work hardly ever affects.

Personally, crime in my city is up, and I'd love it if you'd be willing to come here & help me find a job... they're somewhat few & far between here.

Answer 6

In the face of all the bankruptcy how is the economy doing great unless mountains of debt is a sign of prosperity .
The stock market was projected to reach 15,000 3 years ago in the late 80's by many economists so it is way behind projections .
Individual home ownership is down for the 15th year in a row based on the number of people over 18 added to the housing market and those who have passed away leaving homes behind to family members who did not own one .
This indicates that homes are built but rented to tenants rather then owned by individuals .
Its all a numbers game and when you look at the actual number of people entering and leaving the market a net gain may become seen as increased home ownership when those homes where already owned .As many poor American renters parents pass away they are left with the assets that there parents earned . So they do not count as people owning homes or those able to purchase homes .
That real number is down as rental numbers increase steadily .
Many people have bought investment housing and own more then three homes One valued in the upper hundreds of thousands and several others below 200 for the purposes of income .
Unemployment should now be called under employment as many workers take on two part-time low wage jobs after the factories closed and the only work was service related .
Many have given up and live with family in spare rooms or basements depressed fat and un- productive with little incentive to work for 8 dollars an hour after divorces bankruptcy and job lose . Food stamps and the odd job cover expenses and suicide has been on the rise for men between the ages of 40 -60 for the last 10 years .
I wonder what color the classes you look at America with are colored .
Blacks live in poverty and are un able to get work like many minorities unless you are willing to work for 8 dollars an hour in jobs that the government pays a minimum of 20 for If you never got a ticket or bounced a check in your life .
They stupid children who managed to stay out of jail and trouble of the middle class are working at the good government jobs and the poor minority's work the private sector for a third of the wages paid for exactly the same work . A brick layer who works for xyz company gets 9 dollars an hour . the same job stacking brick on a prison project pays 21 dollars an hour and is done by a white man . Where is the equality in all this .What world do you live in that you know nothing about America except what you are spoon feed by the media and recent presidents who have all become lairs .
You go with the numbers given to you by the media and white house press releases and I will stick with studies done by Harvard ,Princeton, Berkley and others that indicate America is in a difficult time of change . that little progress has been made among the black community , a 50% drop out rate among American schools is somehow acceptable before high school graduation and the disappearing Middle class is a myth to protect who from what .
All the numbers and real research show the truth while politicians and the media does its best to hide reality from the public at large .
ALl you have to do is look around and you will see inner cities falling apart billions of repairs needed on things like bridges roads highways water systems and sewage treatment planets waste disposal facilities and dumps that can barley keep pace . I wonder what planet you came from and how it is living in the back yard of bill gates surrounded by prosperity and never looking over the fence to see what is going on out side the walls .

Answer 7

Because I live in Michigan, and it is the worst the economy has been here, thanks to outsourcing jobs. Home foreclosures are at an all time high, nobody can sell their house right now. Unemployment at an all time high, and Bush won't even meet with the heads of the big three. Also, no strategy for the war. So, those are also the facts, and can't be denied. it all depends on perspective, and it don't look good from here. Oh yeah...record debt, and still climbing

Answer 8

Relevance?
..1/ How much is that debt to the world bank again?
..2/ Fools and their money are easily parted?
..3/ Home Finances (debts) at all time high?
..4/ How hard is it to join the army and take flack>?
..5/ How informed is the media and therefore the people?
..6/ Nationwide military enlistments are up d/d over 5yrs?

Answer 9

1. Inflation also has not been this bad since the 70s.

2. Stock market numbers are easily manipulated.

3. Multiple homes owned by the same rich guy does not count.

4. The only reason unemployment is so low is the number only reflects the people currently receiving unemployment benefits. These people can't get jobs and their benefits ran out.

5. Bush, dropped the ball and let 9-11 happen.

6. I don't know where you got this fictitious crime stat.

Answer 10

7. gasoline prices have been all time historic high.
8. 3000 Americans killed in dead end war.
9. $500 Billion spent for Iraq????
10. U.S. divided as before the Civil War.
11. 12 years of Republican control lost in mid election
Plenty more, but Con's and Repub's don't get it anyway.

Answer 11

"Facts" can be manipulated. The American people know what they are experiencing firsthand. It is not as rosy as the "facts" people hear from the "fact finders". People tend to look around their neighborhood to see how their peers are fairing, not how Wall Street is fairing. Home foreclosures have gone up 600 percent over the last 2 yrs.. According to my "facts". I guess it all depends on where you live.