Despite that he has been caught betting on baseball and never owned up to it as far as I know, I believe that the numbers he put during his great carreer speak for themselves, not to mention his work ethic and desire to win.
One can simply look at quite a few greats inducted in Cooperstown over the decades that were quite unsavoury characters, including a couple that could be considered racists.
Any thoughts?
2006-12-06 04:58:31 · 26 answers · asked by gordowlk61 1 in Sports ➔ Baseball
Pete Rose should without a doubt be inducted into the Hall of Fame, based on what he did on the baseball field. How about the eligibility to vote, be deemed to ONLY those who have "No Sin" or "NO Skeletons" or "No Secrets", that they would be ashamed of, if exposed, vote. Oh......then no one would be inducted. People need to stop with the hypocrisy and judgments. I don't know many people that would admit wrong-doings to world, just to be condemned, criticized, ridiculed, and shamed. Why is admitting the answer?
2006-12-06 05:27:31 · answer #1 · answered by deej 2 · 0⤊ 4⤋
"BANNED FROM BASEBALL FOR LIFE" That's how the ruling came down and that's the way it should remain. The cardinal sin of baseball is "no gambling" and Rose broke it!! There is a thing called integrity and baseball and had a massive fight on it's hands these past few years holding on to that ideal. Are there some bad men in the HOF, yes! But whether they be decent human beings or not, they played the games within the rules and never consciously tried to disgrace it. Rose, McGwire, Bonds, Sosa and all the rest have given baseball a black eye. Most black eyes usually go away over a period of time but theirs will never go away. We don't need people like that. Baseball doesn't need people like that!! It's the greatest game on earth and everyone, players, fans, and those who run the sport have an obligation to uphold it's integrity forever.
2006-12-06 16:26:17 · answer #2 · answered by The Mick "7" 7 · 2⤊ 0⤋
Yes he should be in the Hall of Fame. He is only the greatest hitter to ever play the game. He might of bet on games but he didn't cheat. Pete Rose did not do steroids or use a cork bat, he was great because he played hard all the time. If people like Barry Bonds, Sammy Sosa, Mark McGuire and many others like them can get in the Hall of Fame then they should let Rose in. There are people in the Hall of Fame with a lot less talent than Rose.
2006-12-06 15:54:08 · answer #3 · answered by ? 3 · 0⤊ 1⤋
There is no denying Rose's numbers are good enough for the Hall of Fame, but he did gamble on baseball knowing full well that the consequence of being caught is a lifetime ban from baseball. That being said a number of players who will be in the Hall (ie, Barry Bonds) have arguably committed a greater offense so I think it is hypocritical if steroids users get in and Rose does not.
2006-12-06 15:46:24 · answer #4 · answered by indiana24 2 · 0⤊ 0⤋
You're right that there are unsavory characters in the HOF - Ty Cobb was a racist, Joe Dimaggio could be a real jerk, and there are many others. The difference is that racism, or being a jerk, isn't against an existing rule in major league baseball. Gambling is, and was, against the rules, and Rose willingly broke that rule.
His career numbers are obviously deserving, but he shamed the game with what he did. Letting him in would be to admit that anyone is allowed in the Hall, regardless of their breaking the rules. That would mean Shoeless Joe gets in, along with all the steroid guys, and anyone else who might embarrass the game in the future.
It's not about whether Rose is good enough for the Hall - only an idiot would argue that his numbers aren't worthy. The fact remains, though, that he broke one of baseball's most serious rules and has never owned to his mistakes. He should never be allowed in, at least as long as the HOF considers itself to have any kind of standards.
2006-12-06 13:11:50 · answer #5 · answered by Craig S 7 · 2⤊ 1⤋
I have to say that I do NOT believe Pete Rose should be in the Hall of Fame. He bet on baseball and even bet on the Reds (and DID admit it a few years ago). His numbers are awesome, no doubt, but so are McQwire's and Sosa's and I don't believe either of them should be inducted either. Ditto for Bonds.
All of these players cheated in one way or another and definitely should not be in the HOF. As for some of those already inducted that you mentioned, like Ty Cobb, who was about as racist as you want to get according to several stories about him, they've already been inducted into the Hall, and you will NEVER see someone kicked out of the Hall. Blame it on how things used to be, but we live with different standards now. Of course, a .366 lifetime batting average doesn't hurt either. Mu\y point is that we judge differently now than they did in 1936 when Cobb was inducted.
2006-12-06 14:21:14 · answer #6 · answered by springvalleykid 2 · 1⤊ 1⤋
He shouldn't be allowed in the hall of fame. He Gambled on baseball while he was a player/manager of the Reds, Whats to say that he didn't bet against his own team and then arrange it to happen? He's lied to MLB and the fans as well. He's a selfish miserable human being.
Shoeless Joe Jackson deserves the HOF Not Rose.
2006-12-06 14:00:50 · answer #7 · answered by Oz 7 · 2⤊ 1⤋
NO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! He did bet on major league baseball when he was a manager. He lied and said he did not. Then when faced with the evidence, he admitted he had but that he had not bet on his own team nor did he ever bet as a player. I mean who can believe the man?? He broke the rules and now is banned from baseball including the Hall of Fame. He should not be admitted.
Chow!!
2006-12-06 14:07:24 · answer #8 · answered by No one 7 · 2⤊ 1⤋
Of course he should. The Hall of Fame is all about stats isn't it. And one can only name very few players that played 110 % in every game. Just look at that memorable all star game he played in. This was an exhibition game and this guy did everything he could to make sure his team won with that home plate collision.
If they wanted to look at off the field issues, half of those players inducted would've not been honored, including Ty Cobb and other white hooded wise guys.
2006-12-06 13:11:12 · answer #9 · answered by Anonymous · 1⤊ 2⤋
I agree with Tony Kornheiser's take that he should be put into the Hall of Fame, but they should put the gambling stuff right on his plaque. Same thing with Barry Bonds and the rest of these roid-heads. Put them in and put right on their plaque that there was a huge controversy around the possibility that they used human growth hormones and other substances. That's what history is going to remember them for whether they are in the Hall of Fame or not.
2006-12-06 13:02:57 · answer #10 · answered by DGS 6 · 0⤊ 2⤋