Actually yes, it was.
You're going to get a whole list of self-righteous close-minded sheeple saying things like 'get the white coats out!' and 'yeah and elvis landed on the moon!' and stupid immature sh*t like that.
But consider this:
Why did the FBI confiscate the tapes of the Pentagon immediately and haven't released them since?
How come the WTC towers are the only buildings IN HISTORY to collapse from fire?
Why were the entire WTC buildings completely evacuated weeks before the attack? (to plant bombs as some suggest?)
How could a bunch of arabs from the world's poorest country armed with only boxcutters possibly infiltrate the most sophisticated air defence system on earth unaided?
Why were fighter jets scrambled to intercept the hijacked planes over 20-30 mins later than standard procedure?
Why did several prominent NY stockholders sell their shares off in the days before the attack? (pre-warned?)
Why did Building 7 collapse? (wasn't hit by a plane)
Why were Rumsfeld and his team all at the other end of the Pentagon when it was hit?
Why were some of the so-called hijackers found ALIVE AND WELL, weeks after the attack?!
If anyone can rebuff these valid points without resorting to childish insults, I will be impressed.
Otherwise, all evidence points to an inside job (or at the very least, inside knowledge of an attack)
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'Z', I did say I would be impressed if someone was able to rebuff those questions without childish insults. You are one of the first I have ever seen to do this, so very well done indeed.
You have your argument, and I have mine. I am going to attempt to answer your points but very briefly - because this isn't a message board and space is limited.
I have done my research and the WTC buildings ARE the first and only buildings to collapse from fire alone - just go here:
http://www.infowars.com/articles/sept11/wtc7_first_building_collapse_fire.htm
If you look carefully at the videos of the towers collapsing you can clearly see minor explosions on other floors way below the impact zone. Plus the temperature of jet fuel is not hot enough alone to melt steel (never mind that the initial fires had calmed down greatly by the time the buildings collapsed). They collapsed in a typical 'controlled-demolition' style which was inconsistent with the way the planes hit them. I'm no expert, just common sense.
And, um, Afghanistan is where the Taliban were. The war wasn't the only reason for 9/11 being allowed to happen anyway.. it was also about political power, making money for Dick Cheney, destroying civil liberties, building prisons like Guantanamo, bringing in draconian 'anti-terror' laws, the list is endless. Just do a search for 'PNAC' and see what their goals are.
Building 7 collapsed because it was demolished (Larry Silverstein, the owner, even admits giving the order to 'pull it' meaning to bring it down.) The possibility of an 'earthquake-like effect' being responsible is just laughable.
About scrambling the planes... these jets are on alert and specifically prepared in the event of anything like this happening (hijacking). The whole process is designed to be as swift and effective as possible, so why the 30 min delay??
The point about the shareholders is that they sold ALL their shares, which is pretty rare anyway but a certain number of people all did this on the week before the attacks which could only mean they had been warned something was coming.
I don't work at the Pentagon, no... do you?!? I'm guessing no. So does that mean neither of us have to right to comment? It seems a little convenient to me that Rumsfeld was sitting comfortably miles away from the impact zone when it happened. He knew what was up.
You say that its too big a conspiracy for people to keep quiet about, well guess what... people in the FBI/Gov HAVE tried to speak out and a result were silenced/threatened (look up Sibel Edmonds/Daniel Ellsberg.. there are more but can't remember their names).
I just wish more people would realise that our governments are f*cking evil, do not care about their own people and are hyping the terror threat up to ridiculous proportions to keep people in fear and proceed with their own evil agenda. We need to wake up!
2006-12-05 21:59:16
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answered by Buck Flair 4
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Yes, I found the same type of information. Whatever hit the Pentagon, does not seem to be a Boeing 757.
Listen to this retired general, He says, "The Plane does not fit the hole; so what did hit the Pentagon..."
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K2VoUN-7RVU&eurl=
This video, obtained by a public interest group, shows the top rear fin of an air craft hiding behind a call box: Whatever is hiding back there, is under 60 ft. long, too small to be a Boeing 757, which is over 155 ft. long.
http://www.clipaday.com/2006/05/pentagon_plane_crash_from_sept.html
I have done the calculations myself and sure enough the aircraft that is hiding behind the call box is much too small. I have calculated the aircraft to be under 60 ft.
http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index;_ylt=AhbV6BwSg1e9ey_dNnXYu9Lsy6IX?qid=20061122203115AAj8XR6
A Boeing 757 is 155 ft. 3 in.
A Douglas A-3 Sky Warrior is 76 ft. 4 in.
A Global Hawk RQ-4 is 44 ft. 4.75 in.
An Air launched Cruise Missle is 20 ft. 9 in.
A Global Hawk has similar wheels and landing gear as found at the site and an accurate remote sensor driven pilot.
2006-12-05 23:25:29
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answered by Joe_Pardy 5
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Gawd:
Why not a 757? doing 500 MPH...smashing into a steel reinforced concrete building: Simple physics:
1 REINFORCED CONCRETE WALL(BUILDING) + ONE ALUMINUM/TITANIUM AIRCRAFT= tiny pieces of airplane.
Riddle me this: if the govt is covering it up then why:
Are the people making the sites alive? what are few 100 more deaths after 3000+?
Of the 1000's working in Govt. Say only 5 had complete knowledge of it? We have a govt that leaks CIA agents names!!! you saying the WORLDs biggest cover up can be held together..PLEASE.
2006-12-05 23:55:58
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answered by devilduck74 3
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Yes,.. it was an inside job,.... the planes flew "inside" the buildings,..
seriously people,. how can anyone think this was a conspiracy,..
Gawd!
okay,.. heres your info,. with adult sarcasm rather than childish insults included
It surprised you that the FBI would confiscate something, especialyl if it had any implication in a plot foreign or domestic... are you fro this country?
The buildings collapsed because they were hit by airplanes,. .this weakened them some, and having a full load of airline fuel burning weakened the support steel, and all the weight caused a chain reaction of floors collapsing on each other. Many different sources of this, and no, the world trade center is not hte first building to burn and collapse... try watching some history channel on occasion, its educational
Yes,.. they palnted bombs,... bombs that exploded inward and made the illusions of airplanes hitting before they went off,... they are quite sophisticated.. that one is just ridiculous,.. if thats your thought process,. you better not leave out the alien involvment theory and the secret pact they made with the governmetn to orchastate this thing
The most sophisticated air defense network? Seriously,.. High jacking the planes wasn't all that difficult... Now, its tougher with all the rules... what air defense system did they penetrate? They were on domestic airliners, they simply altered course, and by the tim eit was figured out, it was pretty much too late... This is not a big stretch...after hte first hit, imagine the pandemonium and the ability for controllers occupied with that disaster to miss the other issues,.. they train for emergencies,.. but i doubt anyone ever war gamed what happens if sickos use planes as guided bombs 4 times in a day? Think about it logically
The fighter jets. Do you know what it takes to scramble a fighter jet? Do you have any experience in the military (obviously not, and if so its desk work, cuz you are clueless here) Its not like you wave a wand and they are in the air... Its not like the movie stealth either, people fly the planes... they need weapons pakages, pilots, etc... even if the thing is geared up and fueled, theres still minor pre checks that happen, and,. the pilot deosn't live in a little house right next to the palne,.. seriously,.. you need to know what you are talking about before you bring these things up.
Several shareholders sold stock,.. in what? This is another BS arguement,.. peopel sell stuff all the time... its called wall street,.. people probably bought share that day too. Big Deal? THis says nothing,.. and its not like there is stock in those buildings,.. they aren't a buisness in themselves... this is just pointless
Why did building 7 collapse,.. gee,.. idk,.. earthquake like effects from the othe buildings collapsing right next to it? New York COnstruction isn't meant to be earthquake proof or building falling next to causein ghte earth to shake proof. Ever see a war torn city? you blow up one building,. buildings next to it get residual damage.. there collateral damage when something liek that happens,.. antoher ridiculous question
Why were rumsfeld and his team at the other end of the pentagon? Again,.. you work there? This makes little sense too.. do you even know what happened? Damn near a whole staff section was wiped out almost ceasing some military operations,... perations that would hurt the war you conspiracy theorists say this was for,... why,.. if they planned ahead so well,.. they would need those military personnel who were killed..
Not all of the highjackers actaul made it to there planes... there was supposed to be one ohter target,.. most of the rest were incinerated,.. so once again,. .where are you going with this?
Its amazing how many of you conspiracy guys are Thermodynamic, Demolition, FBI, Pentagon, Pilots are out there... wow
Bottom line is this,... could someone have had an incling there was going to be some kind of attack? Sure,.. but if you have real experience in military or gov intelligence, as well as more than a basic understanding of military operations and such, you would know how easy it would be fro somethin gto be overlooked, or not handed off... even something this important,.. why? human error,.. palin and simple,.. look at the Indianapolis,... (thats a cruiser that sunk in WWII) small intel problem leads to most of its 1000 crew being eaten by sharks after it is hit, because no one comes to rescue it... or the juneua, another cruiser, in which the report of men in the water was phoned in and someone forgot to pas it along, and so almost everyone died there too.
Imagaine all the time and effort to do this "conspiracy" why? the oil? we invaded afganistan not iraq remmeber? Theres nothing there.... AS far as Iraq,.. it was way after,..
am i saying get out the white coats,.. no,.. what I am saying is,.. seriously people,.. have some common sense,. and really break it down... you really thinnk a secret like this would have been able to keep based on all the people it would have taken to pull off internally?
2006-12-05 21:48:47
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answered by Z 5
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I hope you never get called up for juror duty - imagine hanging a person based on video evidence.
2006-12-06 01:23:41
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answered by Anonymous
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Two more Years before we all find out;
2006-12-05 23:27:19
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answered by dorianalways 4
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9-1-1 was just what it was reported to be and you shouldn't hang around with the kool aid crowd.
2006-12-05 22:31:34
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answered by ? 5
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I've heard this, but it seems to be a stretch.
2006-12-05 23:46:51
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answered by Privatize 2
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Where were you on the day? You must be kidding!
2006-12-05 23:33:48
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answered by Claire 5
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Wot is your problem...???
Get this through your thick head, STOP ASKING THE SAME QUESTIONS
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2006-12-05 21:47:20
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answered by ROBSTER 4
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