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In the world today crime is everywhere on the streets and in our homes even within our own computers. But where does a crime start? Is it when in our mind we put it all together our when we start the crime itself? Or is it when we put our ideas in motion and if we put those ideas in motion are we not allowed to stop with our own common sense.

Lets ponder if it does start in our minds and we build towards our true crime example: I plan on destroying someone’s mailbox so I buy a pipe and two end caps and I have some gunpowder and some wicks. That alone is just stuff we might have around the house, not me but some people might. Now by having these items is it a crime yet. Probably not but then I go ahead and assemble this project. Now is it a crime? I don’t know. So lets go on and lets walk down the street with our tailored pipe and a lighter is it a crime yet. Now as I am are ready to place the pipe in the mailbox I think to myself what am I doing I cant do this I would be destroying property our maybe a life I cant do it. So I go home and disassemble my project and go on with my life with a lesson learned in time.

Now not everyone stops himself or herself from such a task but they might. So if anywhere along the line it was a crime. But if our end is to abort our intent and we have not hurt anyone. Then where is the crime but in our mind.

Now not all crime is that thought out some our pre-crimes are spontaneous spur of the moment. Example you go to a club one night and some guy puts you down makes you feel as if you are a plague on the rest of the population. You feel so enraged you go home grab a handgun (yes you have a permit) and start out the door. Is that a crime? You drive to the club still in a murderess rage. Still a crime or not? As you walk to the door to the club you think to yourself, Stop its not worth it and you go home. Did you commit a crime?

In most towns and states both of these instances anywhere along the timeline would have been attempted destruction of property our attempted homicide. So the result of our civilization is that if you think of doing something with the end result as a crime you are going to go through with it even before you had the chance to change your mind.

If a crime starts in the mind and the mind stops it before it becomes a crime where is the crime. So is Pre-crime a crime?
Are we as a culture unable to stop ourselves before we do something we will regret for the rest of our lives? Our other innocent bystanders if you look at the courts today they say we are unable to stop anything before it happens that’s why the courts today are full of pre-crimes. Know of course they are not called pre-crimes they are called attempted (insert crime here). Some attempted crimes are true crimes while others are just someone getting caught before they had the chance to change their minds. So my friends welcome to the future movie days of today as pre-crimes are here. So be cautioned not to even think of anything that is wrong or you too could be guilty of a Pre-Crime…


Story by: Scott E.Gauthier

2006-12-05 10:15:29 · 7 answers · asked by Anonymous in Politics & Government Law & Ethics

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' Pre - Crime can also come under the heading of ' Conspiracy.' More of that going around than of anything else.

2006-12-05 10:18:28 · answer #1 · answered by vanamont7 7 · 2 0

This is similar to the question "Is cybersex or phone sex cheating?" Or "Are lustful thoughts towards another considered cheating?" The law does not generally take intent into consideration. Most of the time the law is intended to be a black and white issue. Either it's a crime or it's not. Either it's cheating or it's not. Now keep in mind this is the law i'm talking about, not an opinion. If you locked everybody up for thoughts, there would not be enough jail space in the world. Who hasn't at one point thought they'd like to punch someone in the face or wished someone dead? It's the people who actually go out and do it who are the criminals. If you stop crimes from being committed by arresting people for thinking about doing something, then you also arrest innocent people.

2006-12-05 10:51:59 · answer #2 · answered by more_brains_than_brawn 2 · 0 0

The test for attempt is whether the defendant took a substantial step towards the commission of the crime with the intent to carry out the crime. We as a society have decided that it is better to stop crimes from being committed as early as possible without prosecuting someone just for ideas or notions that they have no real intent of carrying out. Since the burden of proof is on the government to prove whether an attempt was made, it is less likely that those that are just in the formation of an imaginary plan stage are going to be convicted. You are correct that there is no such thing as a "pre crime" but attempted crimes are punished nearly or as harshly as committed crimes.

2006-12-05 10:32:11 · answer #3 · answered by Tara P 5 · 0 0

Once you put together the pipe bomb, you have committed a crime. Possession of a pipe bomb is a crime.
If you disassemble the pipe bomb (should you be so lucky as to not blow yourself up first) if no one saw you with the assembled bomb, you are no longer in violation of the law.
If you conspired with someone else to blow up the mail box, as soon as one of you bought any of the items it was a completed crime, because it showed the conspiracy.
As for the gun scenario, no crime was committed. However if you had gone in and killed the person who put you down, it would have been premeditated murder, because at any point you could have stopped yourself.
If it is attempted, it is not a pre-crime, it is an attempted crime. Attempted means you tried to do something. Since no one can read your thoughts, you cannot be charged or convicted of something you thought unless you conspire with someone else to do it.

2006-12-05 10:28:02 · answer #4 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

Maybe there would be less crime if people were stopped while in the planning process. Even if they don't do it, just plan it, I think it's still wrong... or maybe they should be more careful on how much they're expressing their thoughts, so that no one gets the wrong idea of their next move.

If you don't want to get caught for something you were or weren't gonna do, then you should probably not think that deep in the first place.

2006-12-05 10:25:57 · answer #5 · answered by ?Johanna Loves Superman? 3 · 2 0

if i think about robbing a bank.. it isn't a crime...

if i load a gun, drive to a bank, walk in, and change my mind.... still not a crime..

if i load a gun, drive to a bank, walk in, and change my mind.... but the gun falls out of my pocket... i would expect to be in trouble. the cops do not know if i changed my mind or dropped my gun. it is my own fault for driving to the bank with a loaded weapon to rob it, even if i have a change of heart.

the reason for pre-crimes is simple... pre-venting crimes. yes it sucks that people can get in trouble for almost screwing up, but it is a precaution that should be taken. there are crazy people out there, and life is too precious to wait for someone to get hurt or killed before saying someone has done ANYTHING wrong.

2006-12-05 10:27:13 · answer #6 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

Ick. Copy and paste, eh? Well, anyway a crime is not a crime until it is committed, I don't care what anyone says.

2006-12-05 10:18:58 · answer #7 · answered by Anonymous · 1 1

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