Why is the england cricket coach and captain not picking Monty Panesar in place of Giles?

Question

The whole of england criket fans and many many past players such as boycott , butcher, gatting , botham etc.....have said it was a mistake to not choose monty. The england team and fletcher said today that they had a bad hour.....thats right a bad hour that cost them the whole game.

Do you think they didnt pick monty cause he is not white and they wanted a white person like giles to start even though monty has a better record this year than giles? Can you think of any reason.......?

Answer 1

I agree with Ian Botham who said it was just pig-headedness - to pick Monty instead of Giles in the Second Test would have been to admit a mistake in selection for the First Test.

I cannot understand why a specialist bowler like Monty is expected to do the job of the batsmen. Fletcher doesn't say we can't pick Strauss and Cook as batsmen because they don't bowl! We should pick six batsmen and have confidence that they will do the batting, a specialist wicket keeper (Read), three seamers, including Flintoff, plus Monty to do some spinning. Pietersen and Collingwood are capable of a few overs if required. The Aussies usually have only four specialist bowlers and they manage quite well on it!!

Perhaps part of the problem is Flintoff's fitness, which makes it risky to rely on him as one of only four front-line bowlers. So Fletcher probably thought that the wicketkeeper must bat at number seven, so Jones (average score 25) gets the nod before Read (average score 20), potentially increasing the run total by five per innings.....at what cost!! The thought of Hoggard batting at number eight presumably made Fletcher scared enough to give Giles preference over Monty. So Fletcher has twice omitted the man he described as the best left-arm spinner in the world!! When it mattered, Giles's batting let us down - out for nought when he need not have played the ball with his bat, something which his own negative bowling should have taught him. Giles's fielding? Well, Ricky Ponting thought it was okay.....

I just hope that Monty's confidence has not been damaged by being left out after doing so well during the summer. But perhaps the answer to your question is just poor judgement by Fletcher and Flintoff, and failing to think things through. I don't think Flintoff is much of a captain - Strauss should have retained the job - but that is another issue!

Answer 2

Your suggestion as to why Monty wasn't picked is so cretinous and laughable, I wont even bother commenting on it..except to ask that if that was the case, then why was he, and Saeed Mahmood for that matter, selected in the England squad in the first place?

And lets imagine he had been picked instead of Giles. Do you seriously think he would have made any difference at all to how England batted yesterday?

Answer 3

yes giles should not play any international cricket from now on!!!! im not english....but i gotta say....giles has made a stain on the proud history of english cricket and cricket in general....buknor and koertzen and billy bowden has to be fired too!!! umpiring was dreadful at VERY VERY crucial stages!!!! giles should be never allowed to play for england again!!! if giles plays in any of the remaining tests....then selectors..captain....and coach....will have to be the 1st few ppl to lose their jobs!!!! the batting by england on the 5th day was without doubt in my time in watching test cricket the worst batting i have ever seen!!!!! that 1st session and even the 2nd session should be made into a video and sold saying 'how to lose a test in a session'....god giles is hopeless aint he??? anderson was soulless....harmison is a liability to the team....no matter how good he WAS!!!! im glad england lost....cause they didnt deserve to win nor draw going into a test being so negative and picking dreadful 'cricketers'(giles...anderson...jones)....that 2nd innings was spineless and quite frankly gutless!!!! giles dropped the ashes when he dropped ponting....i said it the time he dropped him and said ponting would go on to get a hundred in the form he is in....and that is what happened!!!! giles general fielding was dreadful to say the least....i have seen 80 year old women more active than giles!!! i think fletcher has to go....there is no way after making such a blunder in the 1st test with giles and anderson and jones....and doing the same thing in the 2nd test....that he can possibly get off without him being fired!!!! the tour will just get worse as england have to play ODI series after the tests and expect an absolute demolition like u have never seen before!!!!

Answer 4

Monty can not bat. Giles in the past has been able to get some runs.

That is the reason why monty was not picked.

Answer 5

almost as good as a spinner Monty is you cant deny the actual shown truth that his fielding desires a lot of work. His bowling is amazingly good and he's consistent yet i dont imagine England can discover the money for to grant away 4s and dropped catches interior the in the destiny section if Monty messes up. as we talk hes doing properly as a try participant and Englands properly order are doing properly so it cant be because hes not a good batsman , i imagine this is because his fielding desires artwork - which he's doing properly to maximum excellent - yet appears like England opt for to grant some different gamers a chance at spin bowling for the ODIs You by no skill comprehend although , we ought to ensure Monty in international colored equipment previously all of us comprehend it

Answer 6

Duncan Fletcher is a big believer in england players being good in 2 out of 3 things needed in cricket, batting, bowling and fielding. Panesar is a better bowler, but far worse with the bat and in the field. Similar situation with Chris Read and Geraint Jones, Read is a better keeper but not as good with the bat.

Answer 7

duncan fletcher is picking ashley giles over monty panesar because giles has more experience and can bat better than panesar but i still think giles and anderson shudnt b in the team saj mahmood n monty panesar shud b in but flintoff n fletcher keep picking giles

Answer 8

i think its nothing to do with the colour...seriously.... u mite have been hurt by the bad decision they made ...by droping him...but really this isnt the case wot u just mentioned.
it may strike us that how monty couldve made the difference with the 2nd innings batting......and my simple ans to that is that the real point where we lost the winning position was when aussies managed to get to 500+ in their 1st innings. if we had monty and sajid mehmood, im sure the results couldve been different.....

Another reason is the Lack of winning spirit. The men were all over the game for 4 days....and they lost that thing rite at the end..where they most needed it......

Answer 9

I strongly feel that Monty would have defenitely made a difference in the result of the Match. It was a strange decision not to include him in the team. Since their fast bowlers had not made much impact on the Australian Batsmen in the 1st test, they should have played 2 spinners in the 2nd test.

Answer 10

monty cant bat giles can, but i think to even that out, they couldve used mahmood instead of anderson, he can bat, he helped england win their last odi and also had a good knock against pakistan in england..