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America is deadlocked in a battle over her founding principles. Will we give up them up, or remain faithful?

Personally, I'm on the side of preserving our founding principles of SEPERATION OF CHURCH AND STATE and Religious Freedom. So I guess in this area, I am a Liberal. Thomas Paine, Thomas Jefferson, Benjamin Franklin, and our other founding fathers worked hard to ensure that every citezin would feel welcome in the United States, regardless of religion. The fact that our government was hijacked by Christianity during the second Great Awakening doesn't change that history. Now, however, atheists, Deists, Muslims, and to a lesser degree, Jews, Buddists, Christian minority sects (often called "cults") often feel unwelcome in this country because of their religion (or in the case of Atheists and some Deists, lack of religion). This points to the fact that the Evangelical and Fundamentalist Christians are winning.

So, which side are you on?

2006-12-04 04:45:25 · 17 answers · asked by Byron A 3 in Politics & Government Politics

Let's keep in mind who declared this war- the Evangelicals...

2006-12-04 04:50:46 · update #1

17 answers

I guess the founding fathers understood that delusional behavior such as that demonstrated by all religious people will not change over night .
That governments that support religion are bound to fail and removing religion from government is the only way to save a nation from the grips of people living in a delusional state of mind .
That life after death is possible just because some old book tells you that if you do it right you can live forever . A strong attractive message that is hard to overcome . Logic and fact mean nothing to delusional people yet over time if a government no longer backs religion in any manner it will fade away as long as the government remains strong and is willling to remove the people who interject religious values and morales upon a nation .
That bush prayed for guidance about the war was means in itself to remove him from office .
A mental disorder means that he is unfit to run the nation .
And until people step up and declare people who openly admit to a delusion such as life after death we will have major problems .

2006-12-04 05:05:56 · answer #1 · answered by -----JAFO---- 4 · 1 0

I am on the atheist side. I loathe religion in govt and will not abide religious people pushing their beliefs down my throat by using the law of the land to inflict those beliefs upon me. I don't mind them believing in whatever bogey man they want to believe in just don't use the law to force everyone else to live by your belief. If you want what religious govt really looks like you need only look to the middle east and there you will find religious govt. I for one won't let that happen here whether through voting or gun fire I won't let a evangelical Taliban take over this govt no matter how popular or deluded the citizens get I swore an oath to the constitution I will abide by that oath until I die!

2006-12-04 13:01:25 · answer #2 · answered by brian L 6 · 1 0

I don't think there is even a cultural war. The media and conservatives are exaggerating this fact. I don't like the word "happy holidays" and think we should say Christmas. However, I don't think we should be putting religion in everything and demonizing those who aren't evangelicals. I do support separation of church and state, I want the evangelicals to be only a faction of what they used to be in the political arena, NO POWER TO THEM.

2006-12-04 15:13:29 · answer #3 · answered by cynical 6 · 0 0

I'm on the side that says the "cultural war" is based on false distinctions. Distinctions without a difference.

How much of the Constitution will the evangelical powers rewrite? It depends on who is appointed to the Supreme Court, whether we have another self-declared "unitary Executive" such as Bush, and how brave Congress is.

"Scholar says Bush has used obscure doctrine to extend power 95 times"
http://rawstory.com/news/2005/CanExecutive_Branch_Decide_0923.html

2006-12-04 15:21:07 · answer #4 · answered by Strawman Detector 2 · 0 0

Seems you are asking for which side of the "war" we are on when it comes to the amount of separation between church and state, and in that area I am in agreeance with what they call an accomidationist view, one who relies heavily on the free exercise clause, and not a strict seperationist, or one who relies heavily on the establishment clause. I feel that strict seperationism can become hostile to religion, and that is definitely something America should be against. And yet we should not establish (or in the case of Fundamentalism, legislate) religion either. So I don't know where I would land, I am against fundamentalism of the extreme right, but against complete secularism of the extreme left. Who knows...its an interesting debate for sure

2006-12-04 12:49:35 · answer #5 · answered by Anonymous · 2 1

Definitely on the FREEDOM side!! Without separation of Church and State, we all lose, no matter what our beliefs may be!!

Weakening any part of the Constitution is dangerous. It's what makes us a free nation. It should be of concern to all of us.

2006-12-04 12:57:26 · answer #6 · answered by Cub6265 6 · 0 0

I personally feel that religious fanatacism is the cause of all evil. The overwhelming belief that you are doing something for "God, Buddha, or whatever you call your fantasy creator" is causing the world decline. Also wars with no justification. But I digress. I do believe that church and state should be separate. As an Agnostic I feel discriminated against.

2006-12-04 12:49:12 · answer #7 · answered by Anonymous · 2 2

America is done already,

we are losing all our mfging jobs,

we are allowing illegals here,

we have destroyed the middle class,

The left should have learned how ROME fell, see if you do not know history you are doomed to repeat it. The barbarians are here at the gate and we can't even get rid of them. 1 prime example illegal aliens.

2006-12-04 12:48:38 · answer #8 · answered by Anonymous · 3 0

1) The Constitution doesn'r say anything about "Separation of church & state". Try reading it before you try to "quote" it.
2) I am Jewish & feel completely welcome here. In fact the Jews best friends are the Christian fundamentsalists you are smearing.
3) Hostility towards Muslims is entirely due to the fact that som many of them want us dead.

2006-12-04 12:53:41 · answer #9 · answered by yupchagee 7 · 0 2

It's time to quit warping what our founders said. Everyone wants to interpret instead of simply reading and following the instructions.
Our founding fathers were from a time when a mans word was simple, direct and he stood by it. We are from a time of political correctness and spin.

2006-12-04 12:54:25 · answer #10 · answered by Edward F 4 · 0 2

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