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I'm pretty obsessive over grammar, but I'm not sure about grammatical rules involving two subjects...

1) Pronouns after prepositions. Should I use "I" or "me"?

2) Should I use a plural verb after a collective noun, or a singular one?
Ex: "The class leaves" or, "The class leave"?

Thanks to everyone who helps answer this!

2006-12-03 14:22:15 · 9 answers · asked by Nanashi 3 in Education & Reference Words & Wordplay

I'm sorry if this caused confusion, but, in the second question I worded myself a bit strangely. By "plural verb," I meant a verb that would be used after a plural subject (in this case, the plural verb would be "leave"), while the "singular verb" would be after a singular subject ("leaves").

Yet again, sorry for any confusion my wording might've caused!

2006-12-03 14:31:26 · update #1

Some examples for number one would be:

"between Rebecca and (I/me)."

"with my friend and (I/me)."

In such cases, I just am confused in general on how to choose which pronoun...

2006-12-03 14:38:17 · update #2

9 answers

If you have a pronoun used as the object of the preposition then you would use an objective case pronoun. So you should use me instead of I if it is after a preposition.

When you have a collective noun, your verb can be either singular or plural, depending on the way the noun is used. If a collective noun is thought of as a unit, then the noun is singular and you would use a singular verb. On the other hand, if a collective noun is thought of as individuals acting separately, it is said to be plural so you would use a plural noun.
example: The jury has been dismissed. (singular)
The jury were unable to agree among themselves. (plural)

Hope I helped.

2006-12-03 14:43:41 · answer #1 · answered by Anonymous · 1 0

Hey Nanashi, cute avatar.

The answers are not obvious. Perhaps someone else will give a more correct answer than mine.

However, I think no. 2 is correct both ways but in different situations. For example, "The geese fly south for the winter." Geese is a collective noun, yes? But your example should be, "The class leaves." So all these people that say "always" have a plural verb after a collective noun, I think they're wrong.

I'm not sure exactly what you mean by the first one, but if I'm understanding you correctly, I think you use "me".

And to the person who used "do" as a prepostion, it's a verb, not a preposition.

2006-12-03 14:27:46 · answer #2 · answered by Anonymous · 1 0

Plural verb after a collective noun because you're treating the it as a singular being.

2006-12-03 14:26:23 · answer #3 · answered by Askhole Ninja 3 · 0 0

1. me Who is going with me?
2. singular, at least in the US. The team leaves tomorrow.

A little more detail: if you are not sure whether to say Richard and I or Richard and me, you can easily tell by taking out the other person.

For example: Richard and I went to the office. Take out Richard and it becomes I went to the office. You wouldn't say me went to the office. The opposite would be Joe gave Richard and me the keys. Take out Richard and you get Joe gave me the keys. You wouldn't say Joe gave I the keys. That part is easy.

To elaborate on the second question, Americans use a singular verb with a collective noun. Example: my company plans to move to a new location within the year.

2006-12-03 14:31:51 · answer #4 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

I don't remember about the prepositions, but you will always use a plural verb with a collective noun.

2006-12-03 14:24:42 · answer #5 · answered by Heather 3 · 0 0

1 i 2 plural

2006-12-03 14:24:08 · answer #6 · answered by LooK iM sO wHiTe 3 · 0 0

I'm not sure about number 1, but I think it is me after prepositions.

I am 100% sure that you use a singular verb after a collective noun. The collective noun is seen as one, so it is "the class leaves", the group thinks, etc

2006-12-03 14:25:24 · answer #7 · answered by vivmaiko 2 · 0 0

For 1, it depends. (with me) (do I)

For 2, it's leaves

2006-12-03 14:27:07 · answer #8 · answered by Codster 4 · 0 1

me/plural

2006-12-03 14:24:21 · answer #9 · answered by Sarah 3 · 0 1

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