what do u think of these arguments for the existance of God?

Question

http://www.peterkreeft.com/topics-more/20_arguments-gods-existence.htm

Answer 1

Not much. I read arguments from ignorance, incredulity and " god of the gap ". Several non-sequiturs and not enough evidence to get a piss ant around the inside of a cheerio. Quite intellectually feeble, actually.

Answer 2

To explain the unknown with another unknown is not proof of god's existence. Because things change and cannot be explained by science does not make sense to jump to a supernatural conclusion. The arguments are based on faulty logic. The intelligent design struck me as ludicrous, thinking about the 15 or so hominids that didn't make it and are now extinct. the most popular being the Neanderthals. What are we, the new and improved model? Why do we have the unnecessary body parts from our reptillian past, namely the tail bone.

The arguments remind me of using CAVE MAN LOGIC to explain god's existence. Do you remember the movie "The Gods Must Be Crazy," a native in the Kalahari Desert encounters technology for the first time--in the shape of a Coke bottle. I found this to be very amusing, but I also began to see parallels between his thought process, and that of the modern day Theist. Both are using CAVEMAN LOGIC to explain their world. I fail to see the difference between “hmm, bottle fall from sky, must be gods” and “hmm, trees, complex organisms, the human eye, and butterflies prove the existence of god.”

In both of these cases, someone is simply replacing one unknown for another unknown, but proving nothing! It's true that we don't know what came before the big bang, but to jump to the supernatural conclusion is using CAVE MAN logic...sorry.

Answer 3

Some of them were St. Thomas's arguments, to answer one of the posts above. But all of them are fallacious logically. My favorite was Anselm's (The ontological reason on your list) who argues that since we think God is perfect it could not possibly be something that does not exist. That was terrible logic. The concept of perfection does not give birth to perfection in reality. Otherwise, God's existence would depend on someone thinking of perfection. And what kind of God would that be.

Most of the other proofs are likewise logical fallacies. I think the other answerers tackled some of them.

But what I think is that if you believe in God, all of those arguments are irrelevant. If you are a Christian, think about it. Did you believe in god only after being told any of those arguments? Most people will answer no. That's because Christians don't "believe" in God. They have "Faith" in him. While its not possible to prove god exists, it is also not possible to prove that he doesn't. The God that is found in the bible is not someone who is subjected to proofs and tests.

Answer 4

Cool. Were some of these St. Thomas Aquinas' arguments? I remember them mentioning him in religion class in high school but I don't recall what exactly the proofs were....

Yes there are convincing arguments for the existence of God. He fills the holes in scientific explanations. Easier to prove his existence than to prove he doesn't exist. How do you conclusively prove something doesn't exist?

I have faith though & don't require proof. I'm happy to believe without having to see...

Answer 5

I don't think it matters. That's not the point. Everyone gets caught up in proving who right, and fighting about what the truth is. We're supposed to believe in God, have faith even when things aren't so great that he's there for us. That's what religions about. Believing.

Answer 6

They've all been refuted on their own merits.


But here's some more to keep us busy:
http://www.godlessgeeks.com/LINKS/GodProof.htm

Answer 7

they are all right ,all tough i dont understand half of them. if you think there is no god try making a fish from scratch