Employer pays under the table?

Question

If someone at my job is making nearly $45K in disability benefits divided between the VA and SSD, how is it then that (A) She is still working 40 hours or more when SSA says that she is only allowed to work up to 32, which does not make sense to me because I thought that disability was for persons who are UNABLE to work? (B) She obviously did not report her VA income to SSA and was awarded $800 per month, because if she had reported her VA income, she would not be receiving SSD right? (C) For any hours that she works over 32 our employer pays her cash under the table, no overtime, no taxes taken out, so, how is this legal? (D)And, how as taxpayers can we let this go on eating away at our economy? We really need to get a strong and strict handle on our welfare division, like obolish it!! People like her are receiving cash benefits, food stamps, baby assistance, etc...working full time, and lying about it! So, what can I do if I ever needed a little leverage, such as a raise

Well I know for fact that the "under" the table thing is taking place, and I was not really meaning to use this against my employer. The person in question is my friend, and I have seen the paystubs. I am also copying the schedules and time cards, and gaining enough proof. I do not like my boss, she is a theif. And personally, if she is doing this, she is only saying that it is okay to steal, so why shouldn't we steal from her? I wouldn't but do you catch my drift. As far as VA and SSD not being apart of the welfare, you're right, technically, but I do not see any reason why (A) SSD would not take into consideration VA benefits, as she is earning $2600 per month from that, so why would they even contimplate giving her more money? The whole purpose of this system is to help people survive, and one can survive on $2600 per month. She has been classified as 100% disabled by the VA, and therefore should NOT be allowed to work, period. I don't see any reason, why they pay that much

And, why would anyone think for one minute that they are entitled to $45K in benefits? The VA is enough, personally, the VA has a good system, and this is not military retirement pension, as she was only in 6 years, this is disability insurance, which started with complications from a hysterectamy. I just can not justify paying hard earned tax money, for that!! This country is in big sh*t, and that is one reason why! If she "can not" work, then she should not work, period. And, she does not pay taxes on any money received, other then the 32 hrs a week that is done via check. How can someone piss and moan about the politics of this country, or justify having any say so when you don't pay taxes?

Answer 1

A) Disability is meant for someone who is not able to perform most of the functions a normal person can. SSD rules are that a person can only earn a certain amount each month or their benefits are reduced/removed for that period. Apparently this person's pay rate makes her only able to work 32 hrs/week. B) Disability does not take into account VA benefits. C) It's not legal. D) SSD and VA benefits are not the same as welfare, and a lot of reform has occurred in the welfare system. What you can do in this particular case is report it to SSD and the IRS, but only if you have real, hard evidence of the illegal, under the table payments. Your say-so just isn't enough. you need something on paper.

As far as leverage goes, understand that if you do blackmail your employers, they will find a way to throw you out the door as fast as they can.

Answer 2

Scott:

After your long detailed narrative, your actual question at the end was "So, what can I do if I ever needed a little leverage, such as a raise?"

What you are suggesting is using your knowledge of allegedly illegal activity in order to get financial gain. This is called bribery. Don't even think about using this as a wedge for a raise. It'll only come back to bite you if you do. In fact, you might begin looking for a more ethical place to work.

Answer 3

Working under the table is not legal for any purpose. BUT it is done many times when the amount is low and not as a permanent situation. It is highly illegal to pay under the table to evade government agencies or for reasons where you are gaining more income by lying to the IRS, and many other agencies simultaneously. I think this should reported. I am not a lawyer, but I smell multiple levels of fraud with the intent of theft from others, not the least of which is the IRS. OUCH!!

Answer 4

I agree with you wholeheartedly. Report her! It's not fair that the rest of us bust our farkin' a**es our whole lives. It is most definitely illegal for an employer to do anything under the table like that. Report the employer to the better business bureau

Answer 5

So, you are asking how to blackmail your employer? If you are truely concerned about the abuse of welfare, then do the right thing and report this abuse with no expectations of financial benefit for yourself.

Answer 6

so, why aren't you reporting her to the SSD?