Why do creationists think they can put prayer in public schools?

Question

Its all very well if you want to put it in a private religious school. But public schools are funded by tax money from the state and federal governments. And the basis for both is the constitution, which says government cannot promote or prohibit religious beliefs. So if the schools are getting federal and state money, and they are forcing kids to pray, wouldn't that be promoting religion?

Shouldn't religion, of any kind, just be left out of public schools period?

Answer 1

It is the dream of overboard Christians to be persecuted for Christ. They love it. They feel so virtuous for no real effort.

The difference between students privately praying on their own without direction, and the school mandating time for students to pray is lost on them...because they don't want to see the difference.

The VERY gullible believe that there is an effort to ban the Bible and they have to defend it against attack, when the opposite is true. There is an attempt to ban Science and substitute Biblical beliefs in place of it. I am a Christian myself, and I shudder every time I see another overboard Christian corner a Science teacher and start demanding changes during open house at school.

Answer 2

No one should be forced to pray, but should be allowed the opportunity to pray. Muslim students in U.S public schools are given the the right to pray as often as Islamic law has dictated.
However, Christian students are not given this same right of freedom of religious expression.
There is a definite attack on Christianity in the U.S. Interestingly enough, the escalation became more obvious and dramatic, even accepted, after the Islamic attack on 9-11-2001.
Freedom of religion is being denied under the guise of "separation of church and state". When secular progressives (liberals) speak of separation of church and state, it's only addressed to Christians?

Answer 3

Guess you are a product of the public school system, since no that is not what the constitution says, it says they can't pass any laws restricting the practice of religion, and they can not establish a state religion.

And they never forced kids to pray but allowed those that wanted to, to pray.

so it looks like they need to put it back into school and start teaching the real constitution also

Answer 4

I can always tell when someone went to public school by their ignorance of this country and its constitution.

There is ABSOLUTELY NO SUCH THING AS A "SEPERATION OF CHURCH AND STATE!!!"

Rather, the First ammendment, the establishment clause (which is what people are CONSTANTLY misinterpretying) says this.

"CONGRESS shall MAKE NO LAW respecting (regarding) the ESTABLISHMENT of a religion, nor restricting the FREE PRACTICE THEREOF."

In other words, CONGRESS cannot make laws which establish a STATE religion. This is intended to protect the freedom of worship for ALL, INCLUDING those in the church! If students or teachers desire to pray in school, then there is NO AUTHORITY which can legally stop them. No one is forcing the children to pray or to believe as the other students/teachers do.

Allowing this freedom of SPEECH and FREE PRACTICE OF RELIGION on school grounds is NOT unconstitutional, and it does NOT equal "promoting" religion!

BTW, to whomever spoke of the "ID" thing... Ever heard of biogenisis or entropy? Scientific laws... And evolution violates them both. Look it up.

Anyway, I'm sure you'll pass over this as best answer since you're obviously looking for someone who agrees with you, but it doesn't matter. I've had my say.

Edit: To answer the detail you added to your question. As a matter of school policy, yes, ALL religion should be kept out or none at all. HOWEVER, to do this on a national level would require a law, which would violate the first ammendment.

However, I would also state that a school cannot punish, rightfully, a student for praying out loud, reading a holy book, or leading a small group of students in prayer. This is a violation of free practice of religion and freedom of speech.

Answer 5

Banning religeon anywhere is wrong. Making people engage in religeous activity is just as wrong. Let people do what they want as long as they are not harming anyone else, that is what freedom means. Where exactly are people being forced to pray? And where did your information come from? I have not heard that on the news...

Answer 6

unlawful movements might want to no longer be tolerated.. i'd document the movements to varsity officials at each and every element at contemporary.. i'd eliminate my baby from the instructor's classification.. i'd communicate with my baby explaining that distinct human beings had distinct opinion although evaluations on faith are literally to not be provided as artwork of a public faculties curriculum... i'd then ask my baby what their evaluations were and we would communicate their perfect to their personal opinion inspite of the actuality that that opinion might want to correctly be...

Answer 7

For the same reason that voting booths are placed in churches at election time!!! No government can tell me where I can and cannot pray!!! It is called Freedom of Religion and not freedom FROM religion!!!

Answer 8

The public schools currently allow every religious sect to be talked about and promoted in the public schools except christianity. Children are taught about the Big Bang Theory, so why couldn't creation be discussed in comparison between the two and let the children decide for themself? This would not be promoting either just giving them dialogue to determine for themselves what they prefer to believe.

Answer 9

If government can not prohibit religious beliefs why do you think people can't pray at school.If the majority are Christian the minority are free to either not participate or seek other schools.

Answer 10

Yes it is promoting religion and it is in direct violation of the Constitution. This is why, even though i am a devote Cristian, i hate living in the bible belt.

Gonzo, i think it happens all over and i know it happens in Texas because i live in Texas