describe a situation that would constitute 'winning' the war in iraq/afghanistan/ 'on terror'?

Question

people always say that we have to 'keep fighting until we are successful', but what does that actually mean? does anyone know, or is it this just orwellian rhetoric used to keep up the support for a perpetual state of collective fear and global warfare?

Answer 1

when do we win the war on drugs, the war on crime... when its over. terrorism is something that given the nuclear proliferation of the world is not something we can allow to continue. in the past skirmish's were bad but you didn't threaten the world. Now one wrong person can destroy the world. now what do they use to fund their terror? oil and then sell it for money. look how much money sadaam had stock piled. we have to control it if there is not a stable govt that can do it them selves.

this society is based in "do it now"
as Osama bin laden said, "the US doesnt have the political guts to fight this war".

Answer 2

Well, we fight until we go broke or the place is a total mess. Iraq is a total mess that why we keep trying find ways to leave. Afghanistans progress is unmeasureable because the country doesnt exist 20 miles outside of Kabul.
Weaponsmakers make money selling fear. The ssmaller countries over there will get involved in the war as soon as it starts to impinge on their goals and interests.
Do you think Saudi Arabia, Turkey, Egypt and KUWAIT will support an Shi-ite controlled Iraq? Do you think Iran wont try to undermine an Sunni controlled Iraq? Do you think Turkey and Iran will endorse a autonomous Kurdish region not under USA protection? This was a mess when it started, and Colin Powell knew it. George Bush, Sr. knew it. France knew it.

Answer 3

This is a prime example of how I, as a conservative, DO NOT agree with GWBush.

He ia certainly no "great communicator."

His response to all those idiouts wanting a "time-line" he should have responded with a clear list of goals. Not just mentioning a few goals in his speeches, but a published list of requirements before we can leave Iraq. Having a functional Iraqi military & police system should be number one. And then every time the terrorist blows up a recruiting station, it would be even more clear that the terrorist is not supporting the interests of the Iraqis.

Answer 4

i believe it means that we want to continue fighting until we can make sure they can defend themselves from terrorists. If they can't defend themselves, then terrorists will take over and try to attack us again, giving us the same situation we are in right now. I said this in another Yahoo! Answer and i will say it again, maybe Bush was incorrect about the weapons of mass destruction in iraq, but think about this. Your the president and a source you know is 99% correct tell you that iraq has weapons of mass destruction. Are you going to sit there and hope it isn't true, or would you rather clean house and know for yourself if they have them or not?

Answer 5

"Winning" the war means leaving Iraq and Afghanistan with democratic governments able to maintain their own internal and external security.

Consider that while we've been there over 3 years, the democratically elected gov't of Iraq has really only existed for about 9 months. Do you really expect a new government, starting from scratch, to really be able to secure itself and govern effectively in that short of time?

Truly we need to be there to help them another 2 or 3 years, and even after that we'll probably still need to have a sizeable force, say 30,000 troops or so, providing support for a few more years.

Answer 6

There is no actually winning in any war however, when the Iraqis finally get absolutely fed up of the Syrian and Iranian meddling, and their killing of innocent Iraqis, maybe Iraq will then wake up and start denonating suicide bombers, cars and IEDs in the streets of Syria and Iran their old enemy. Tit for tat, eventually all sides will want to talk peace after they get tired of all the killing.

Answer 7

Winning to me is fighting Al-Qaeda and other terrorist groups in Iraq and in Afghanistan. As long as we are fighting them there we are not fighting them here on our soil. They are not attacking all the innocent civilians in our country. So to me, winning is keeping them busy over there fighting American military, instead of innocent people here dieing.

Answer 8

Listen, I don’t think going into Iraq was are best decision, but its too late to complain. We got ourselves into this mess so now we must finish it. If we leave now it will lead into a catastrophic war resulting in millions of lives being lost, it is 1938 all over again. President Ahmadinejad is Hitler.
Let me explain:
We attacked Iraq, not because of terrorism or 9/11 but for oil and to establish a democracy in the middle east or is it because they’re “Muslims and we’re Christians” but lets not go there.(Remember, Christians and Muslims have been fighting since the birth of religion) Because of our attack terrorism has increased five folds since 9/11, so obviously we’re not over there to stop terrorism. Saddam was the key to keeping Iran in check, he was a counterweight to the Iranians. They balanced each other out. When Saddam was captured the Iranians began to see the situation as a opportunity for them to gain power. Syria joined in. Now think about it, Iran at this very moment are acquiring nuclear weapons (Russia is supplying them). Iran and Syria(Egypt is involved as well) have this great plan. They believe that anyone who isn’t Muslim must die. In fact, Ahmadinejad recently wrote a letter to Bush warning us of this. They are threatening us with nukes and we must not stand for this.
Im getting tired of writing so im going to sum it up. If we pull out, Iran and other terrorist groups will look down on us. They will have no respect for us and it will encourage them. They will begin with taking back Iraq and soon move all over the middle east, they will wipe out Israel and then aim for the rest of the world. There wont be anyone in the middle east to stop them, as of now we are the only ones holding them down. If we leave it will make it a lot easier for them to obtain nuclear weapons and will lead to the end of the world as we know it; they will succeed and millions will die. For us its not just about staying in Iraq, we must take action. We must attack Iran, Syria, and get a hold on Russia. If we attack Iran about 50,000 of our solders will die and ill be happy to be one of them. If we don’t attack, millions will die, take your pick.

I have a lot more to say but im tired and its late so I wanted to be quick about it, email me if u want to know anything.

Answer 9

Do you ever like to compare the war on terror to the war on communism and see all the similarities between the two.
The main difference is they have really hit the gold mine with a "war on terror", it is sheer brilliance on their part really, a war that has no ending. The war on terror can never be won and it was never meant to be won.

Afghanistan was invaded because the Taliban stopped doing what we wanted them too. Karzai the former head of Unical, the now leader of Afghanistan, gave us the oil pipeline through to the Caspian sea as soon as he was in power.

Answer 10

In 2007 when we hand over the issues to the Iraqi Government